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This documentary investigates
extraordinary claims

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of American intelligence,

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What do they say that government agencies
they have spaceships

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of non-human origin
and alien bodies.

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Hello, my name is James Fox.

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In 2022, I produced and directed a documentary

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-about an alleged case of a UFO crash
-It arrived, it crashed...

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-which took place
-He had red eyes.

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-in Varginha, Brazil, in 1996.
-I was afraid.

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Since the film's release,

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several eyewitnesses
Additional witnesses continue to testify.

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I saw it clearly.

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I could really see it.

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A flying cigar.

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-He landed.
-Wow.

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I thought, “What?”

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This is not from here.

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I was the police chief.

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I went to the place where

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the creatures

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They were captured.

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Why are you talking about that now?

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Because I trust his work...

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They are investigating something
in which I participated.

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The eyes were shaped like drops of water.

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How much time did you spend with the alien
in the room?

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Five minutes?

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-Ten?
-Give it a moment.

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DR. ITALO VENTURELLI
CHIEF NEUROSURGEON, REGIONAL HOSPITAL

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3 or 4 minutes.

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TIME OF CONTACT
NEW ALIEN REVELATIONS

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A JAMES FOX FILM

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For the first time in history,

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We have had several hearings
in Congress

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in which officials
high level intelligence

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have testified under oath

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that these programs
plane crash recovery

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they have taken
carried out around the world for decades.

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I was informed in the exercise of my
official functions,

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about a UAP that has been around for several decades
in operation,

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focused on accident recovery
aerials and reverse engineering.

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Who are the contractors who own
this material? The corporations.

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Well, one of them is Lockheed.

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And I'll say something, I'm not saying that
Lockheed be the bad guys.

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They are doing what
they were asked to do.

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Have you been exposed
to irrefutable confirmation

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of INH technology,

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and their base systems involved
somehow

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in reverse engineering exploitation
of non-human systems?

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We're going to have to talk about
Yes I am legally allowed

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to answer that, and if you
You are allowed to listen to it.

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Are any of you willing
to appoint specific guardians

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inside the root cell
UAP-SAP Federation?

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Does it refer to people and contractors
specific ones that have addressed this?

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Specific individuals.

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VETERANS TESTIFY IN BEING WITNESSES OF
UNIDENTIFIED ABNORMAL PHENOMENA

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Well, one of them is Dr. James Ryder

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from Lockheed.

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Glenn Gaffney, CIA.

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When do you think those started?
programs and who authorized them?

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I know a lot of that information,

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but it's something I can't comment on
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Where was it?

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I can't tell you that, ma'am.

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You specifically said
that the document said that

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can't talk about
recovery from air accidents.

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You know, you can't talk about Fight Club.
if Fight Club doesn't exist.

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This was recorded on October 30, 2024.

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This video shows a drone
MQ-9 following an orb

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off the coast of Yemen.

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You will see that another MQ-9

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launched a Hellfire missile.

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This is where the image zoomed out,

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so you can still see how it travels.

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These observations were multisensor
and were registered within the ICC-1.

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An object shaped like
Tic Tac emerged from the ocean

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before joining up with three others.
similar objects.

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There's something out there, and like the town,
we should know what it is.

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Do you believe that the federal government

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is deliberately hiding evidence
about UAPs from the public?

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Yes sir.

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100%.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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What exactly are we talking about?

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Strong evidence that they are not human
and they have superior intelligence.

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As a regulatory body, we must know this.

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Well, let me know when you're ready.

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-Recording now.
-I'm Eric Davis.

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I am an astrophysicist and propulsion engineer
and space nuclear energy

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in the aerospace industry.

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I have worked for almost 30 years

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investigating the recovery program
of air accidents,

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which includes studies of
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of UAP ships and, sometimes,

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also the recovery of INH bodies,
bodies of non-human intelligence.

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-And...
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Dr. Eric W. Davis

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He is a contractor and scientific consultant

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for multiple government programs
US UAP Research

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for the DIA, the Naval Office
Intelligence and the Department of Defense.

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In 2025, he informed members of Congress,

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revealing as much as possible
of unclassified details

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as possible
without breaking his oath.

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I have been exposed to so many things in the
classified room what can I say,

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definitely, you can be sure
that they are there.

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The frustration of the principals
media

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is that these statements
They are extraordinary.

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Yes, but it's classified data, so
I can't give you the classified information.

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That's what we tell them
always to journalists.

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How awful.

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Yes, yes, but what is the answer to that?

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Some members of Congress who
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yes they have the capacity
to enter a SCIF,

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an Information Facility
Compartmented Sensitive, and receive

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the necessary classified details
to verify these statements.

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I know the exact locations,
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were provided to the Inspector General

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and some of them to the committees
of intelligence. In fact, I...

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For almost 12 hours in a
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a decorated war veteran
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turned whistleblower, David Grusch,

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provided the Inspector General
of the intelligence community,

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to the Congressional Intelligence Committee

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and his lawyers, both from the Chamber
of Representatives and the Senate,

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the details necessary to
verify your claims,

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including

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program names,
names of the guardians,

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specific locations of materials,

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as well as contractors who work with
the government in these programs.

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The complainant's claims
David Grusch...

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A complainant who previously
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UAP of the Department of Defense...

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...They indicated that they were of non-human origin.

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And also recovered pilots
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That would be crazy.

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Something that the Pentagon denies.

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When he says: "Recovery of
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Vehicles of exotic and non-human origin
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We have spaceships
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That's right. Yes.

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It's great news.

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Senator Rubio says Grusch is not

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the only government official
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who has said these types of statements.

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There are others.

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There are people who have contacted
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with our committee.

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I want to protect these people very much.

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Many of these people came
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that these protections
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Laws that protect whistleblowers.

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And, frankly, many of them had
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clearances, fearful of their careers.

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And some, frankly,
They fear suffering harm.

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In protest of excessive secrecy

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and threats to personal safety
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Grusch resigned just before turning
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and therefore
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So you wonder, what incentive

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there would be so many people with that kind of...

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rating. These people are serious,
why would they invent something like that?

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I know it is very difficult for the public
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for the media,
that they can accept this.

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But the fact is, all those witnesses,
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testified
under oath of penalty of perjury.

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So don't commit
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Because they know they will go to jail
and they will pay a fine.

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And he has already told a good part of "everything"

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in classified briefings
in a SCIF in Congress,

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so now
have a good idea of what you found

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in his research on
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of the program
recovery from air accidents.

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I am very curious.

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Kirk McConnell, recently retired
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in the committees of
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where the authorizations
higher and compartmentalized security levels.

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He was also one of the main
Senate advisors

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in UFO research.

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People who were involved in the

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recognized program
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that Harry Reid started,

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but we were also
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who were willing
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of a legacy program and
accident recoveries,

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and, you know, the biological evidence.

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Some of them were aware
first hand.

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What was it like sitting in a SCIF...

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...with these assumptions
first hand witnesses?

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What expression did the senators have?

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You know, it changes your life completely,

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and it took a lot of psychological adjustment

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to start accepting this

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type of reality.

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Adapting to it is amazing.

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Put me wherever you were
when you saw the photographs

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of ship recovery
accidents and documents.

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What did it feel like?
What do you know...?

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I was very surprised when...

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...saw...

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...recorded evidence,

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with my own eyes.
Photographs, reports and more.

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That elevated it to a higher level.

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That made it much more realistic.

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and that left him very...

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...of course.

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That this reality is very hard,
very physical, very real,

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and this type of evidence is not
found in open literature.

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It is not public.
It is classified information.

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And I can't talk about what it was,
but yes I can tell you

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that it was a recovery
of plane crash.

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There is a ship and there are alien bodies.

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That's all that
I can say about it.

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Do you swear on your life that you saw those photos?

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Oh I swear on my life
and for everyone,

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for the lives of my children, so...

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Yes, I'm telling you the truth.

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I saw the evidence, and it is compelling.

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I can't tell you the exact number,

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-Yes.
-because it is classified information,

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But I'll just say there are a few dozen.
of recoveries in total.

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In the 1930s?

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-Yeah.
-Air accident recovery?

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Yes, it appears in the classified files
that it is a real fact.

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In the 1940s?

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Yes. Roswell was...

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As incredible as these seem
reports, are nothing new.

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...and another in 1958, but there were more.

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When do you think this happened?
for the first time?

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Previously, in the 1930s.

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MAGENTA, ITALY
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investigative journalist,
magazine editor

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and UFO researcher, Maurizio Baiata.

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In 1933,

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a disk-shaped object

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It crashed not far from here.

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It was reported that the fascist dictator
Benito Mussolini obtained the UFO.

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According to a
top secret italian telegram

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whose age has been verified,

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Mussolini ordered
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in relation to the alleged landing in
national soil from an unknown ship.

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The maximum penalty for non-compliance will be
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by State Security.

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Mussolini and the fascist regime

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will have the opportunity to develop

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new technology based on that thing,

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if it truly came from space.

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Some of these recovery programs
of plane accidents...

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According to sworn testimony before the
Congress, the Magenta UFO of 1933

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was acquired by the Americans
at the end of World War II.

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ROSWELL, NEW MEXICO
1947

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Cover edition, July 8, 1947.

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The Army Air Forces have
announced the discovery of a flying disc

253
00:13:09,831 --> 00:13:12,542
and is now in the possession of the Army.
The officers of the...

254
00:13:12,625 --> 00:13:17,797
The 509th Bombardment Squadron, based
at Roswell Military Airfield,

255
00:13:18,006 --> 00:13:22,051
It was an elite unit, carefully
selected, exclusively responsible

256
00:13:22,135 --> 00:13:26,097
of the deployment of
atomic weapons in 1947.

257
00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:29,684
One of the first soldiers
to get to the place,

258
00:13:29,767 --> 00:13:33,563
He was the Chief of Intelligence
Major Jesse Marcel.

259
00:13:33,646 --> 00:13:35,189
As an intelligence officer,
I was familiar

260
00:13:35,273 --> 00:13:37,108
with practically everyone
the materials that were used

261
00:13:37,275 --> 00:13:40,069
on aircraft and in our air travel.

262
00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:42,071
This was nothing like that.

263
00:13:42,238 --> 00:13:45,992
It was nothing of this world,
I'm not sure about that.

264
00:13:49,871 --> 00:13:52,290
May 19, 1953.

265
00:13:52,373 --> 00:13:58,254
A 32 kiloton fission bomb
nicknamed Hamlet explodes at Yucca Flat,

266
00:13:58,338 --> 00:14:00,381
the nuclear test site in Nevada.

267
00:14:01,341 --> 00:14:03,926
Two days later,
several witnesses reported

268
00:14:04,010 --> 00:14:07,263
of the discovery of a UFO
in Kingman, Arizona,

269
00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:09,265
approximately to
160 kilometers away.

270
00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:13,436
A UFO crashed in Kingman in 1953,

271
00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:16,105
and then the aircraft was confiscated by
The Air Force.

272
00:14:16,189 --> 00:14:19,692
According to a 1973 affidavit

273
00:14:19,776 --> 00:14:23,821
by Air Force engineer
Wright-Patterson, Arthur Stansel,

274
00:14:23,905 --> 00:14:26,949
known under
Fritz Werner's alias:

275
00:14:27,450 --> 00:14:31,954
"I solemnly swear that during a mission
special with the Air Force

276
00:14:32,038 --> 00:14:34,999
on May 21, 1953,

277
00:14:35,416 --> 00:14:38,294
I participated in the
accident investigation

278
00:14:38,378 --> 00:14:42,173
of an unknown object in the vicinity
of Kingman, Arizona."

279
00:14:42,465 --> 00:14:44,842
And the revelations didn't stop there.

280
00:14:44,926 --> 00:14:48,012
Has a program to monitor
to these crazy people...

281
00:14:48,096 --> 00:14:51,808
Former Deputy Undersecretary
of Defense for Intelligence,

282
00:14:51,974 --> 00:14:53,393
Christopher Mellon

283
00:14:53,518 --> 00:14:56,729
made public a correspondence
until then secret

284
00:14:56,813 --> 00:15:01,109
with a senior government official
who shared specific details

285
00:15:01,192 --> 00:15:02,568
of the Kingman incident.

286
00:15:02,652 --> 00:15:03,653
...covered.

287
00:15:04,028 --> 00:15:08,116
"We are dealing with the recovery of
a UAP that landed, not crashed,

288
00:15:08,199 --> 00:15:11,577
but landed on
Kingman, Arizona, in the 1950s."

289
00:15:12,245 --> 00:15:16,374
Now we know the management structure,
and security control systems

290
00:15:16,457 --> 00:15:19,127
and the appropriation
of plane crash recovery.

291
00:15:19,544 --> 00:15:22,922
We also know who the guardian is
of the Air Force, and names him.

292
00:15:24,632 --> 00:15:28,720
An uncensored copy was provided by Mellon
to select members of Congress.

293
00:15:29,262 --> 00:15:30,972
APPROVED FOR OPEN PUBLICATION

294
00:15:32,974 --> 00:15:38,646
On December 9, 1965,
residents of Ontario, Michigan,

295
00:15:38,730 --> 00:15:41,190
Ohio and Pennsylvania reported

296
00:15:41,274 --> 00:15:44,861
having seen a shiny object and
stranger flying through the skies,

297
00:15:45,528 --> 00:15:49,240
before it crashed nearby
of Kecksburg, Pennsylvania.

298
00:15:49,699 --> 00:15:51,701
I had seen it from the window
from our bedroom.

299
00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,662
My wife and I came
to this same place.

300
00:15:56,164 --> 00:15:58,750
They tried to reach the forest where
the object fell.

301
00:15:58,833 --> 00:16:02,587
They were met by armed soldiers
who pointed their rifles at them.

302
00:16:04,589 --> 00:16:06,549
It didn't fall from the sky.

303
00:16:07,550 --> 00:16:09,719
It had to have gone in at an angle.

304
00:16:10,303 --> 00:16:12,013
My wife and I come from Greensburg.

305
00:16:12,096 --> 00:16:13,681
The military was already here.

306
00:16:15,516 --> 00:16:17,602
How did the army arrive so quickly?

307
00:16:19,353 --> 00:16:23,858
There were jeeps and trucks,
uniformed men

308
00:16:23,941 --> 00:16:25,485
and state police.

309
00:16:26,194 --> 00:16:30,948
And they concentrated on the area
where that had fallen.

310
00:16:32,867 --> 00:16:36,412
Behind me there was a truck parked,

311
00:16:36,496 --> 00:16:38,122
a big box truck.

312
00:16:38,206 --> 00:16:41,667
I saw four people leave there.

313
00:16:41,751 --> 00:16:43,836
They were carrying a box.

314
00:16:44,086 --> 00:16:46,464
These guys were dressed
with space suits.

315
00:16:46,756 --> 00:16:49,509
Four people came out
with space suits,

316
00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:55,431
They took that box down and took it towards
where the object had landed.

317
00:16:55,973 --> 00:16:57,642
KECKSBURG
SITE WHERE THE UFO CRASHED

318
00:16:57,725 --> 00:17:00,102
The Kecksburg UFO Incident took place

319
00:17:00,186 --> 00:17:03,815
inside the supposed "Ring of Steel"
of the US Army

320
00:17:04,232 --> 00:17:09,695
A defensive circle of Hercules missiles
with nuclear warheads surrounding Pittsburgh.

321
00:17:10,154 --> 00:17:13,491
Some of those sites were
just 15 miles away.

322
00:17:15,576 --> 00:17:20,498
Several eyewitnesses reported
having seen an acorn-shaped object

323
00:17:20,581 --> 00:17:25,253
with strange symbols at the bottom
before the arrival of the military.

324
00:17:27,129 --> 00:17:30,383
He left there around one in the
early morning with a tarp over the object,

325
00:17:30,466 --> 00:17:31,926
with military escort.

326
00:17:32,343 --> 00:17:34,470
According to independent sources,

327
00:17:34,554 --> 00:17:37,640
moved to the Air Force Base
of Lockbourne, near Columbus, Ohio.

328
00:17:37,723 --> 00:17:39,600
He remained there under heavy guard.

329
00:17:39,684 --> 00:17:42,311
They had established a perimeter
security around the hangar.

330
00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:45,022
He only stayed there for a short time,
then continued

331
00:17:45,106 --> 00:17:46,983
to the Air Force Base
Wright-Patterson.

332
00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:49,068
We do not know its current location.

333
00:17:50,695 --> 00:17:55,157
Which suggests that it is not of human origin
is the fact that the ship

334
00:17:55,241 --> 00:17:58,160
was seen doing zigzag turns
in the sky

335
00:17:58,244 --> 00:18:00,162
It wasn't like he collapsed.

336
00:18:00,246 --> 00:18:04,000
In reality, he was maneuvering in the air
before landing,

337
00:18:04,083 --> 00:18:06,294
and it really was more
a landing than a crash.

338
00:18:06,377 --> 00:18:08,462
What really seems interesting to me,

339
00:18:08,546 --> 00:18:12,133
is that if it really wasn't
something very significant,

340
00:18:12,216 --> 00:18:15,219
Why wouldn't they reveal the
information after so many years?

341
00:18:15,553 --> 00:18:17,179
BENTWATERS/WOODBRIDGE, UNITED KINGDOM
DECEMBER, 1980

342
00:18:17,263 --> 00:18:21,058
In 1980, a British air base
and American,

343
00:18:21,183 --> 00:18:23,603
RAF Bentwaters/Woodbridge,

344
00:18:23,686 --> 00:18:27,940
It housed the largest arsenal of
tactical nuclear weapons in Europe.

345
00:18:29,358 --> 00:18:34,155
It was here that a UFO landed
triangular, somewhat pyramidal in shape.

346
00:18:34,363 --> 00:18:36,616
RECREATION

347
00:18:36,699 --> 00:18:39,410
Sergeant Jim Penniston,
military officer,

348
00:18:39,493 --> 00:18:42,163
He inspected the strange ship for more than

349
00:18:42,246 --> 00:18:45,166
45 minutes while he was on the ground.

350
00:18:45,833 --> 00:18:47,793
The feeling I had
During the meeting it was...

351
00:18:48,711 --> 00:18:51,213
...different from any other type
of aircraft you have seen.

352
00:18:51,297 --> 00:18:54,216
It wasn't in the book
Jane's All the World's Aircraft

353
00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:56,260
nor in anything I've seen since.

354
00:18:56,344 --> 00:18:58,721
After approximately 45 minutes,

355
00:18:58,804 --> 00:19:01,933
the light of the ship
began to intensify.

356
00:19:02,099 --> 00:19:04,435
Burroughs and I then adopted
a defensive position,

357
00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:08,648
moving away from the ship while
It rose without making a sound,

358
00:19:09,398 --> 00:19:10,524
and without making air disturbances.

359
00:19:10,983 --> 00:19:14,111
He maneuvered through the trees
and he was thrown into a...

360
00:19:15,154 --> 00:19:16,364
...incredible speed.

361
00:19:16,614 --> 00:19:18,574
It disappeared in the blink of an eye.

362
00:19:19,033 --> 00:19:21,410
In my law book,
that I have right here,

363
00:19:21,869 --> 00:19:25,289
I wrote: "Impossible speed."

364
00:19:25,915 --> 00:19:30,002
That night, more than 80 members
of Air Force personnel,

365
00:19:30,294 --> 00:19:31,921
all trained observers

366
00:19:32,004 --> 00:19:35,383
assigned to the 81st Police Squadron
Security witnessed the takeoff.

367
00:19:35,925 --> 00:19:38,219
The information obtained
during that investigation

368
00:19:38,302 --> 00:19:40,262
was reported through
from my military channels.

369
00:19:40,554 --> 00:19:42,640
The team and witnesses were ordered

370
00:19:42,723 --> 00:19:45,309
that they would try
the investigation as top secret.

371
00:19:47,687 --> 00:19:49,939
KNOWN RECOVERIES AND LANDINGS

372
00:19:50,022 --> 00:19:52,525
There are many other reports
from all over the world

373
00:19:52,608 --> 00:19:55,778
about UFO landings and/or accidents.

374
00:19:56,112 --> 00:20:00,199
But the most documented and convincing case
of modern history

375
00:20:00,324 --> 00:20:03,828
it happened outside
of the densely populated city

376
00:20:03,911 --> 00:20:08,207
from Varginha, Brazil, in January 1996.

377
00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:09,291
BRAZIL

378
00:20:10,626 --> 00:20:13,087
According to credible first-hand reports,

379
00:20:13,504 --> 00:20:16,173
several aliens
They survived the accident.

380
00:20:21,971 --> 00:20:25,599
Many people believe that this
It is an alien.

381
00:20:25,683 --> 00:20:29,186
It has been said that being
was captured by the authorities

382
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:31,897
and it is kept hidden somewhere.

383
00:20:31,981 --> 00:20:34,233
The strange creature was captured

384
00:20:34,316 --> 00:20:36,485
and taken to another state.

385
00:20:36,569 --> 00:20:38,821
The commanding general made a statement,

386
00:20:38,904 --> 00:20:40,322
denying the whole story.

387
00:20:40,448 --> 00:20:43,034
We have nothing to hide.

388
00:20:43,325 --> 00:20:44,535
I was losing altitude.

389
00:20:44,827 --> 00:20:47,788
It was sliding and slowly losing altitude,

390
00:20:47,872 --> 00:20:49,206
as it progressed.

391
00:20:49,290 --> 00:20:53,085
If it's true, call it another Roswell,
if they want.

392
00:20:53,753 --> 00:20:58,716
It is an accident vehicle that,
apparently it had people on board.

393
00:20:59,091 --> 00:21:02,845
Can you tell what feeling
did the photograph produce?

394
00:21:03,387 --> 00:21:04,388
I was...

395
00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:08,100
like scared and hiding from something.

396
00:21:10,728 --> 00:21:12,521
The Varginha case is considered...

397
00:21:13,397 --> 00:21:15,107
...the secret...

398
00:21:15,983 --> 00:21:17,735
...best kept...

399
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,322
...in the circles of the Brazilian Army.

400
00:21:25,409 --> 00:21:26,786
SOUTH AMERICA
ATLANTIC OCEAN

401
00:21:31,123 --> 00:21:33,918
SÃO PAULO, BRAZIL

402
00:21:36,587 --> 00:21:39,215
We are in São Paulo, Brazil.

403
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:45,096
About to investigate the infamous
Varginha UFO incident of 1996.

404
00:21:45,179 --> 00:21:48,724
My goal here in Brazil
is to clarify what happened

405
00:21:48,808 --> 00:21:52,436
and know where
the rubble ended.

406
00:21:55,272 --> 00:21:58,317
You could hypothetically say
for a moment, if it did happen,

407
00:21:59,276 --> 00:22:01,487
How significant would the event be?

408
00:22:01,654 --> 00:22:05,741
I bet everyone would say there isn't
nothing more significant than this.

409
00:22:06,033 --> 00:22:07,118
Yes it is true.

410
00:22:07,284 --> 00:22:10,287
I simply ask people
to suspend his trials,

411
00:22:10,913 --> 00:22:12,581
to listen to the testimonies,

412
00:22:12,957 --> 00:22:14,667
and then,
draw your own conclusions.

413
00:22:16,168 --> 00:22:17,336
Hey...

414
00:22:17,795 --> 00:22:19,922
Let's just leave me or something,

415
00:22:20,005 --> 00:22:22,758
to have something while they
They turn around, or wait...

416
00:22:23,634 --> 00:22:28,222
Upon arriving in Varginha, the filmmakers
they want to listen to the locals

417
00:22:28,305 --> 00:22:29,890
-talk about the assumption
-Good.

418
00:22:29,974 --> 00:22:32,393
1996 UFO crash.

419
00:22:34,895 --> 00:22:39,567
A large saucer-shaped monument
steering wheel is a clear indication that

420
00:22:39,650 --> 00:22:41,777
the town welcomes history
with enthusiasm.

421
00:22:42,486 --> 00:22:48,325
Armed with handmade signs that
They said: "If anyone knows what happened in 1996,

422
00:22:48,409 --> 00:22:49,660
Please talk to us."

423
00:22:49,869 --> 00:22:51,912
The team takes to the streets.

424
00:22:52,663 --> 00:22:55,291
What do you think of the case?
Do you think it happened or didn't happen?

425
00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:56,375
It is possible.

426
00:22:56,458 --> 00:22:58,419
What do you think about Varginha?

427
00:22:58,502 --> 00:22:59,879
I believe it.

428
00:22:59,962 --> 00:23:02,882
I believe the girls that
They say they saw it.

429
00:23:02,965 --> 00:23:06,218
I really believe in
case of aliens in Varginha.

430
00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:12,266
About the UFO case
in Varginha in 1996, what do you think?

431
00:23:12,683 --> 00:23:14,268
Well, I think it did happen.

432
00:23:14,351 --> 00:23:18,606
I think the universe is big
and that probably happened.

433
00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:28,073
MEMORIAL TO E.T. - MUSEUM
VARGINHA, BRAZIL

434
00:23:28,407 --> 00:23:32,119
Well, many people in this city
It has a small piece of the puzzle.

435
00:23:32,203 --> 00:23:34,830
We were only here an hour and a half,
and I can't believe

436
00:23:34,914 --> 00:23:36,248
How did we get so many people to talk to us?

437
00:23:36,332 --> 00:23:39,210
What I love about this case
is that it is recent enough

438
00:23:39,293 --> 00:23:43,130
so that people have heard of
this, or that they had their own experiences.

439
00:23:44,757 --> 00:23:48,260
Right now we are going to meet with

440
00:23:48,344 --> 00:23:51,305
the mayor... of Varginha.

441
00:23:52,139 --> 00:23:54,767
I'm very curious if
an elected official

442
00:23:54,850 --> 00:23:58,354
is willing to talk about
the details of the case.

443
00:23:58,437 --> 00:24:00,898
-and if you believe it really happened.
-Yeah.

444
00:24:01,148 --> 00:24:03,400
-Yeah.
-That kind of thing.

445
00:24:03,484 --> 00:24:05,152
CITY COUNCIL
VARGINHA, BRAZIL

446
00:24:09,156 --> 00:24:11,951
It's a pleasure to meet you, Mr. Vérdi.

447
00:24:13,327 --> 00:24:14,912
The pleasure is mine.

448
00:24:15,871 --> 00:24:17,957
I believe it with certainty

449
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,209
that this case occurred,

450
00:24:20,292 --> 00:24:22,461
because so many events

451
00:24:22,544 --> 00:24:24,213
They are connected. So,

452
00:24:24,296 --> 00:24:26,632
suddenly the Army was seen
in the city,

453
00:24:26,715 --> 00:24:28,467
many people saw the Army here.

454
00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:31,720
Then the death of a person

455
00:24:31,804 --> 00:24:33,806
who participated at that time,

456
00:24:33,889 --> 00:24:35,474
a former police officer,

457
00:24:35,557 --> 00:24:37,977
and the girls he had contact with,

458
00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:41,981
one was my nephew's girlfriend
for a long time...

459
00:24:42,106 --> 00:24:45,401
So, I am convinced
that this happened.

460
00:24:56,704 --> 00:25:00,165
ORALINA AND EURICO FREITAS
WITNESSES OF THE CASTILHO FARM

461
00:25:00,291 --> 00:25:04,628
Give me the idea of being on this farm
in January 1996.

462
00:25:04,962 --> 00:25:05,963
What happened?

463
00:25:06,672 --> 00:25:09,758
It was all because of the noise of the cows.

464
00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:12,386
They were running all over the house.

465
00:25:12,469 --> 00:25:14,305
That's what caught my attention.

466
00:25:14,388 --> 00:25:16,015
Then I looked out the window and saw...

467
00:25:16,682 --> 00:25:17,766
...an object passing by,

468
00:25:17,850 --> 00:25:18,892
and then I called him.

469
00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:22,271
The object was shaped like a school bus.

470
00:25:23,564 --> 00:25:24,857
The size of a school bus.

471
00:25:25,607 --> 00:25:27,901
And... he didn't make any noise.

472
00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:31,822
We keep watching because of everything
the smoke coming out of there.

473
00:25:32,156 --> 00:25:33,991
A dense white smoke surrounded him.

474
00:25:34,616 --> 00:25:36,118
I even joked with her, “What is that?

475
00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:38,787
"It looks like a submarine!"
Because it was floating.

476
00:25:38,954 --> 00:25:39,955
RECREATION

477
00:25:40,205 --> 00:25:41,707
And we keep seeing it,

478
00:25:42,333 --> 00:25:43,375
until it disappeared.

479
00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:44,793
I stayed still.

480
00:25:44,877 --> 00:25:48,213
I was trying to listen
to see if I could hear it fall.

481
00:25:48,797 --> 00:25:51,467
And he looked out the window, watching.

482
00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:54,386
-It was shaped like a cigar...
-Yes.

483
00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:55,929
...as long as this...

484
00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:58,265
...like a cigar.

485
00:26:00,809 --> 00:26:03,479
Its speed made it seem
who was in trouble.

486
00:26:05,939 --> 00:26:07,608
It happened very slowly.

487
00:26:10,986 --> 00:26:13,364
Approximately 30 kilometers
in a straight line

488
00:26:13,447 --> 00:26:14,990
from the place where the couple sighted the UFO.

489
00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:18,619
The farmer Fabio Furtado found himself
with a similar object.

490
00:26:19,036 --> 00:26:20,579
I saw it from here,

491
00:26:20,662 --> 00:26:21,955
flew by here.

492
00:26:22,414 --> 00:26:24,291
He moved like this... Over there.

493
00:26:24,792 --> 00:26:26,085
I was watching it from here.

494
00:26:26,168 --> 00:26:27,294
He moved like this,

495
00:26:27,378 --> 00:26:28,420
exactly here,

496
00:26:28,712 --> 00:26:30,297
And it landed back there.

497
00:26:34,510 --> 00:26:35,552
When it landed,

498
00:26:35,636 --> 00:26:37,930
which was pretty close,

499
00:26:38,013 --> 00:26:39,056
what does one think?

500
00:26:39,139 --> 00:26:40,182
"He's coming here!"

501
00:26:41,642 --> 00:26:42,768
I thought, “What?

502
00:26:42,851 --> 00:26:44,269
This is not from here."

503
00:26:45,813 --> 00:26:47,398
We close all the windows,

504
00:26:47,731 --> 00:26:49,066
We lock ourselves inside,

505
00:26:49,149 --> 00:26:52,027
and we didn't leave for anything.
We didn't leave until dawn.

506
00:26:53,654 --> 00:26:55,239
I saw it clearly.

507
00:26:55,322 --> 00:26:57,991
I could see it very clearly, an object...

508
00:26:58,492 --> 00:27:00,786
...different, a flying cigar.

509
00:27:01,245 --> 00:27:02,246
He did...

510
00:27:05,332 --> 00:27:06,959
-And it landed.
-Wow!

511
00:27:07,042 --> 00:27:08,210
He landed there.

512
00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:11,588
-So you couldn't see anything?
-I closed everything.

513
00:27:11,672 --> 00:27:13,132
He says he closed everything.

514
00:27:13,215 --> 00:27:15,717
And as they say:
"We ran to the bathroom!"

515
00:27:16,885 --> 00:27:18,512
To cleanse ourselves.

516
00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:20,347
-Yeah.
-You can't... Can you imagine?

517
00:27:20,431 --> 00:27:21,849
-What was that?
-Yes, yes.

518
00:27:25,185 --> 00:27:26,812
My name is Carlos de Sousa.

519
00:27:27,354 --> 00:27:31,358
I was here, on this road, in 1996...

520
00:27:32,151 --> 00:27:33,944
When the UFO accident occurred.

521
00:27:34,027 --> 00:27:37,364
I am here today to tell my story.

522
00:27:40,534 --> 00:27:41,827
Three Hearts.

523
00:27:42,077 --> 00:27:43,704
The accident happened here.

524
00:27:45,539 --> 00:27:48,208
January 13, 1996.

525
00:27:48,584 --> 00:27:54,089
Carlos de Sousa travels from São Paulo to
Minas Gerais early in the morning.

526
00:27:54,506 --> 00:27:58,260
Planning to meet friends
to fly in ultralight aircraft.

527
00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:00,637
That's where it all happened.

528
00:28:01,597 --> 00:28:03,849
Carlos de Sousa, witness to the accident,

529
00:28:03,932 --> 00:28:07,811
describes a similar object
in this exclusive interview
.

530
00:28:07,895 --> 00:28:10,022
One side was
completely torn,

531
00:28:10,481 --> 00:28:14,526
and white smoke came out.
It wasn't black smoke like that from a fire.

532
00:28:14,818 --> 00:28:17,529
At the time, I thought it was...

533
00:28:19,781 --> 00:28:22,743
...like an aircraft in distress, a plane,

534
00:28:22,826 --> 00:28:24,453
So I decided to follow him.

535
00:28:24,995 --> 00:28:27,748
An object coming this way,

536
00:28:27,915 --> 00:28:31,293
with this part... left.

537
00:28:32,419 --> 00:28:36,215
He headed towards the highway.

538
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,259
I was driving down the highway, down there.

539
00:28:39,343 --> 00:28:41,136
It was at a height of approximately…

540
00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:44,640
...about 400 or 300 meters, more or less.

541
00:28:44,723 --> 00:28:47,226
And I was losing altitude.

542
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,312
Losing, losing altitude.

543
00:28:50,395 --> 00:28:52,940
He reached the road.

544
00:28:53,023 --> 00:28:59,655
On the road,
took a 360 degree turn...

545
00:29:02,866 --> 00:29:05,327
...and it arrived, it continued to lose altitude,

546
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,955
then it gained altitude again.

547
00:29:08,455 --> 00:29:09,915
And when it arrived,

548
00:29:09,998 --> 00:29:12,834
approximately from where I am, some...

549
00:29:13,377 --> 00:29:15,254
...100 meters, 150 meters,

550
00:29:15,337 --> 00:29:19,341
the engines were completely shut down
and descended.

551
00:29:20,884 --> 00:29:24,137
As if I didn't have...
the force necessary to fly.

552
00:29:24,221 --> 00:29:27,140
He completely lost control and
He collapsed to the ground with a loud bang.

553
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:35,399
There must be people... in there,

554
00:29:35,482 --> 00:29:39,027
and those people
They're going to need help right now.

555
00:29:42,614 --> 00:29:44,575
Now, 26 years later,

556
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:49,246
the team travels with Carlos de Sousa to
Find the accident site.

557
00:30:01,925 --> 00:30:03,218
Turn around.

558
00:30:04,136 --> 00:30:05,137
Ready.

559
00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:07,848
-Be careful with the dust!
-He's trying to remember.

560
00:30:07,931 --> 00:30:10,017
-Yes, yes, it is... Yes.
-The top.

561
00:30:10,183 --> 00:30:13,854
I remember passing by two grates
for cattle. The first and the second.

562
00:30:14,896 --> 00:30:17,149
If they were inside the house...

563
00:30:17,524 --> 00:30:19,443
If not... How did you know?

564
00:30:19,526 --> 00:30:21,862
I don't remember... It's been 26 years...

565
00:30:22,362 --> 00:30:23,739
He doesn't...

566
00:30:24,615 --> 00:30:26,325
-...he remembers it.
-Twenty-six years.

567
00:30:27,034 --> 00:30:30,078
-I remember a house and a hill.
-Since twenty-six has passed...

568
00:30:30,162 --> 00:30:32,289
Does this sound familiar?
There's a house up there.

569
00:30:33,749 --> 00:30:35,792
But if it is
near a house, then it has to

570
00:30:35,876 --> 00:30:38,462
be lower here unless
the house has disappeared.

571
00:30:38,795 --> 00:30:40,756
-I think the house disappeared.
-Do you believe?

572
00:30:40,922 --> 00:30:43,467
-Yeah.
-There used to be trees on this side.

573
00:30:44,051 --> 00:30:47,220
Before there was grass, trees and a meadow.

574
00:30:47,304 --> 00:30:49,139
-Large meadow.
-I mean, I could...

575
00:30:49,222 --> 00:30:50,223
Very big.

576
00:30:50,724 --> 00:30:51,933
More or less around here.

577
00:30:52,017 --> 00:30:53,644
Tell him to stop here.

578
00:30:53,727 --> 00:30:55,437
-He's asking you to stop.
-I think it's right here.

579
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,856
-Shall I stop?
-That is. Please. I'm going out.

580
00:30:57,939 --> 00:30:59,149
-Okay, let's go.
-Good.

581
00:31:22,005 --> 00:31:23,590
The grass was here.

582
00:31:24,466 --> 00:31:26,968
-The grass was over here.
-What are you saying?

583
00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:30,263
Yes, it says that a grass
was around here.

584
00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:33,058
-Good.
-There was a small meadow around here.

585
00:31:35,310 --> 00:31:36,603
Let me go see that tree over there.

586
00:31:36,687 --> 00:31:37,688
He wants to go there.

587
00:31:37,771 --> 00:31:38,772
Good, good.

588
00:31:49,658 --> 00:31:51,243
Something here...

589
00:31:52,536 --> 00:31:55,747
There was a house here.

590
00:31:56,164 --> 00:31:57,290
A house.

591
00:31:58,625 --> 00:31:59,626
A white house.

592
00:31:59,710 --> 00:32:02,587
It was a small white house.

593
00:32:02,671 --> 00:32:04,131
-Yes, it was a small house,
-So...

594
00:32:04,256 --> 00:32:06,925
-and the grass burned.
-So...

595
00:32:07,008 --> 00:32:08,176
The grass burned.

596
00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:09,553
Why did the grass burn?

597
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,555
-Because...?
-Because it was a chemical substance,

598
00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:13,140
Like an acid.

599
00:32:13,223 --> 00:32:14,349
For the object?

600
00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:15,600
For the object, for the object.

601
00:32:15,684 --> 00:32:17,519
Because it was a big circle,

602
00:32:18,061 --> 00:32:22,023
about 40 meters in diameter, more or less,
burned.

603
00:32:23,275 --> 00:32:25,736
-And the house was around here.
-And the house is no longer there?

604
00:32:25,819 --> 00:32:27,863
-I was around here.
-The house is no longer there.

605
00:32:28,071 --> 00:32:29,948
Yes, as if it were there.

606
00:32:32,743 --> 00:32:34,661
It's hard to find, because

607
00:32:34,745 --> 00:32:37,622
-my only reference disappeared.
-Everything is different.

608
00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:39,082
They took him away.

609
00:32:40,208 --> 00:32:41,960
MAIOLINI FARM, BRAZIL

610
00:32:42,043 --> 00:32:44,004
Could it be here or there?

611
00:32:44,212 --> 00:32:46,882
-Could it be here or there?
-Or there.

612
00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:51,011
We approach there and see...

613
00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:54,723
If you are close to the road, you can only
be in a couple of places.

614
00:32:56,850 --> 00:32:58,185
Do you want to get closer?

615
00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:00,896
-There is only...
-He said the house was close

616
00:33:00,979 --> 00:33:02,314
from the accident site.

617
00:33:02,397 --> 00:33:04,691
-Yeah. Yes, it's like...
-200 meters.

618
00:33:04,775 --> 00:33:06,568
-600 feet.
-In Maiolini...

619
00:33:06,860 --> 00:33:08,570
In the Maiolini house.

620
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:10,781
The Maiolini family.

621
00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:15,076
Well, I say...
Let us examine it more closely. I say...

622
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,204
-Yes.
-Know?

623
00:33:17,829 --> 00:33:20,332
-But he's not around here.
-Well, we have to do it, friend.

624
00:33:20,415 --> 00:33:21,666
We have to find this place.

625
00:33:24,586 --> 00:33:25,670
There are many trees.

626
00:33:25,754 --> 00:33:27,088
Is there a house down there?

627
00:33:27,172 --> 00:33:29,841
-Yeah. There is a house...
-Over there, by those same trees?

628
00:33:29,925 --> 00:33:30,926
Yes.

629
00:33:31,676 --> 00:33:33,845
Well, let's get to that point then.

630
00:33:34,137 --> 00:33:35,138
It was a small house.

631
00:33:35,222 --> 00:33:36,306
You have to drive there.

632
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:37,933
Let's go down by car to get closer.

633
00:33:38,433 --> 00:33:39,434
There is a house there.

634
00:33:39,726 --> 00:33:40,852
Is this a field?

635
00:33:41,144 --> 00:33:42,562
Yes, yes, yes.

636
00:33:43,104 --> 00:33:44,105
Yes...

637
00:33:45,315 --> 00:33:46,441
Here.

638
00:33:47,234 --> 00:33:48,235
Here!

639
00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:49,861
Here.

640
00:33:49,945 --> 00:33:50,946
Here.

641
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:52,364
-Here, here.
-Here.

642
00:33:52,447 --> 00:33:53,824
-Here, here.
-Here. Come on.

643
00:33:53,907 --> 00:33:54,908
It was here.

644
00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:00,831
It was here!

645
00:34:01,748 --> 00:34:02,749
Here.

646
00:34:03,667 --> 00:34:04,793
Here, here.

647
00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:06,211
Wow.

648
00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:08,713
-Here.
-Here it is.

649
00:34:12,175 --> 00:34:13,176
Here.

650
00:34:16,263 --> 00:34:17,264
Here.

651
00:34:18,348 --> 00:34:19,349
Wow.

652
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:20,642
It was here!

653
00:34:21,351 --> 00:34:23,436
Here. That tree wasn't there.

654
00:34:24,229 --> 00:34:25,981
You could see the house there.

655
00:34:26,273 --> 00:34:27,274
Here.

656
00:34:28,066 --> 00:34:29,609
It came, it crashed,

657
00:34:30,235 --> 00:34:32,654
It bounced, it spread.

658
00:34:33,947 --> 00:34:34,990
Extended.

659
00:34:35,073 --> 00:34:37,409
Here. Here.

660
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:39,160
Here.

661
00:35:06,479 --> 00:35:07,814
It was here. Here.

662
00:35:09,357 --> 00:35:10,358
Here.

663
00:35:24,289 --> 00:35:26,249
That fence was near the house.

664
00:35:42,641 --> 00:35:44,351
This is where it crashed.

665
00:35:45,894 --> 00:35:47,062
This is the place.

666
00:35:57,697 --> 00:35:59,240
Beings died here.

667
00:36:05,872 --> 00:36:07,040
WHITE HOUSE

668
00:36:07,999 --> 00:36:11,461
ACCIDENT PLACE

669
00:36:11,878 --> 00:36:17,592
Was this object big enough
How to house beings inside?

670
00:36:17,801 --> 00:36:21,262
Yes, it was approximately
the size of a school bus.

671
00:36:21,388 --> 00:36:22,555
A little bigger.

672
00:36:22,806 --> 00:36:23,807
A...

673
00:36:24,099 --> 00:36:26,351
A school bus, school bus.

674
00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:28,770
A little bigger, just a little.

675
00:36:31,481 --> 00:36:36,069
According to Mr. Sousa, this area was
rubble cover

676
00:36:36,152 --> 00:36:38,113
of the UFO accident.

677
00:36:41,658 --> 00:36:44,995
RECREATION

678
00:36:47,789 --> 00:36:50,875
WHITE HOUSE

679
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,848
ACCIDENT PLACE

680
00:37:04,931 --> 00:37:09,728
This is your first visit to the place
of the accident since 1996.

681
00:37:10,770 --> 00:37:12,939
When I arrived at the place...

682
00:37:14,232 --> 00:37:15,525
...in this same place...

683
00:37:16,568 --> 00:37:20,238
...I observed a lot of debris, pieces.

684
00:37:20,905 --> 00:37:22,991
And when I got out of the car,

685
00:37:23,074 --> 00:37:26,286
I immediately smelled ammonia,

686
00:37:26,369 --> 00:37:27,829
like rotten eggs.

687
00:37:28,121 --> 00:37:30,040
A very strong smell,

688
00:37:30,123 --> 00:37:32,042
was so strong that I had
to hold my nose

689
00:37:32,125 --> 00:37:34,210
with the shirt he was wearing.

690
00:37:35,170 --> 00:37:37,839
My eyes filled with tears.

691
00:37:38,214 --> 00:37:40,425
The first thing I noticed was that it was something

692
00:37:40,508 --> 00:37:42,927
very different from what I expected.

693
00:37:43,011 --> 00:37:44,345
What I was waiting for.

694
00:37:44,888 --> 00:37:46,181
First, because of the smell.

695
00:37:46,973 --> 00:37:49,392
That smell didn't make sense.

696
00:37:52,103 --> 00:37:54,689
And I saw a piece, it looked like aluminum.

697
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:57,692
That aluminum foil you wrap with
the chicken to roast it.

698
00:37:58,610 --> 00:38:00,195
I took a leaf.

699
00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:02,322
I took a little piece, it was very light.

700
00:38:02,405 --> 00:38:03,490
I crumpled it,

701
00:38:03,573 --> 00:38:04,699
but when I let go,

702
00:38:04,783 --> 00:38:06,367
returned to its original form.

703
00:38:10,205 --> 00:38:13,166
So he gets out of the car,
You see the piece, right?

704
00:38:13,249 --> 00:38:15,710
-Yeah.
-He picks up the piece, folds it.

705
00:38:15,794 --> 00:38:18,213
He said it was very light and had
a shape similar to this.

706
00:38:18,505 --> 00:38:20,256
-Yeah.
-Then pick it up,

707
00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:22,383
He folds it and it opens by itself.

708
00:38:22,467 --> 00:38:23,718
And it was really light,

709
00:38:23,802 --> 00:38:25,261
-like aluminum.
-Yeah.

710
00:38:25,386 --> 00:38:30,391
When did the military arrive?
to him, right after that happened?

711
00:38:30,475 --> 00:38:31,851
-Yeah.
-Did the military come?

712
00:38:31,935 --> 00:38:33,937
-This way and they arrived?
-Yeah. Hey...

713
00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:37,982
Carlos de Sousa came from here
and the trucks came from that side.

714
00:38:38,066 --> 00:38:39,359
-Good.
-Know?

715
00:38:40,276 --> 00:38:44,989
In a few minutes, they arrive at the place
trucks from the ESA military base.

716
00:38:45,406 --> 00:38:47,575
-Out, out. Go away?
-Yeah.

717
00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:49,035
"Go, go!"

718
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:50,745
-Go, go?
-I think some kind...

719
00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:52,872
“Go, go, go, go!”

720
00:38:52,956 --> 00:38:54,624
Pushing. "Go away!"

721
00:38:54,707 --> 00:38:56,126
"No, but..." So...

722
00:38:57,710 --> 00:39:00,088
"Go! I told you to go!"

723
00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:01,422
I told you to go away.

724
00:39:01,798 --> 00:39:03,383
I order you to leave!"

725
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,968
What does what it says mean?

726
00:39:05,051 --> 00:39:06,886
-"Go, go, go!"
-Go away?

727
00:39:07,011 --> 00:39:09,347
-"Go away and I'm ordering you..."
-"Go away."

728
00:39:09,556 --> 00:39:10,557
"I'm ordering you"?

729
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,058
-Yes.
-"I order you to leave."

730
00:39:12,142 --> 00:39:13,977
-Yes.
-Then he took out his gun,

731
00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:16,146
-and said: "I order you to leave."
-Yes.

732
00:39:16,229 --> 00:39:18,648
"Oh, good, good, good, good."

733
00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:20,024
Right here.

734
00:39:21,151 --> 00:39:22,819
-Wow.
-"Good, good, good, good."

735
00:39:23,236 --> 00:39:24,737
I got in the car and left.

736
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,367
After granting this interview
shortly after the incident...

737
00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:31,244
"Go, go, go!"

738
00:39:31,327 --> 00:39:34,998
...Carlos de Sousa disappears
for 26 years.

739
00:39:45,258 --> 00:39:46,259
Mark it.

740
00:39:47,218 --> 00:39:48,219
Good.

741
00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:51,014
Can we walk exactly
to the place where this happened?

742
00:39:51,598 --> 00:39:54,475
Seven days after Sousa
witnessed the accident,

743
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:57,353
Ruber Ladeira leaves this gym,

744
00:39:57,437 --> 00:40:01,816
when he and several friends saw two
Military trucks entering the city.

745
00:40:05,069 --> 00:40:09,949
They follow them around the neighborhood
and they run into a military blockade.

746
00:40:10,658 --> 00:40:13,244
More or less, they drew a line here.

747
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,622
I can't say it precisely,

748
00:40:15,705 --> 00:40:18,374
but here there were four or five soldiers,

749
00:40:18,791 --> 00:40:21,628
and another soldier on the other side of the truck.

750
00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:24,422
All placed
with their rifles pointed downwards.

751
00:40:26,382 --> 00:40:30,511
One of the people in his group said:
"This is a free country and I will pass..."

752
00:40:30,595 --> 00:40:32,347
-It was him. Yes.
-Was it him?

753
00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:34,390
I said I had the right to come and go,

754
00:40:34,724 --> 00:40:37,101
constitutional law
to enter and leave.

755
00:40:37,352 --> 00:40:40,271
Then he said, "It's a free country,
"I'll do whatever I want."

756
00:40:40,355 --> 00:40:41,356
And then what happens?

757
00:40:43,191 --> 00:40:48,655
The only thing they did
was shaking his head.

758
00:40:48,738 --> 00:40:50,823
They didn't say anything.

759
00:40:50,907 --> 00:40:53,618
When we try to force our way through,

760
00:40:53,701 --> 00:40:56,955
They raised their rifles.

761
00:40:57,455 --> 00:41:00,792
Was it scary? Were you afraid that day?

762
00:41:02,252 --> 00:41:06,089
I only felt afraid when
They raised their weapons.

763
00:41:06,172 --> 00:41:08,132
Because I've never seen a gun...

764
00:41:09,133 --> 00:41:10,218
...so big.

765
00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:13,972
and never
Nobody has pointed a gun at me.

766
00:41:14,555 --> 00:41:16,641
It was the only time I was afraid.

767
00:41:20,561 --> 00:41:22,772
I had never seen before

768
00:41:22,855 --> 00:41:25,525
a military truck in Varginha.

769
00:41:29,654 --> 00:41:33,908
The team headed to meet with one of
the main reporters of TV Princesa,

770
00:41:34,450 --> 00:41:37,245
who had gone to cover the news
at that time.

771
00:41:40,123 --> 00:41:41,124
Absolutely.

772
00:41:42,208 --> 00:41:46,212
Describe what happened in 1996,
what you witnessed, what you saw.

773
00:41:46,462 --> 00:41:48,881
I could see...

774
00:41:49,257 --> 00:41:50,466
like the weather...

775
00:41:51,134 --> 00:41:53,886
it closed as if there were
a huge storm.

776
00:41:54,721 --> 00:41:56,431
I looked out the window and:

777
00:41:56,764 --> 00:41:58,933
"Wow! Suddenly night fell."

778
00:41:59,851 --> 00:42:02,770
At that moment
the news began to arrive.

779
00:42:03,104 --> 00:42:05,606
Some girls said
having seen a creature

780
00:42:06,232 --> 00:42:09,068
near the Marcão gym.

781
00:42:09,694 --> 00:42:12,488
I know the city well.

782
00:42:12,572 --> 00:42:15,950
I had a little Volkswagen Beetle,
I decided to go take a look.

783
00:42:16,576 --> 00:42:18,578
But when we arrive,

784
00:42:19,203 --> 00:42:20,913
there were army trucks,

785
00:42:20,997 --> 00:42:23,499
and they told me I couldn't go through there.

786
00:42:24,584 --> 00:42:26,336
I asked why.

787
00:42:26,419 --> 00:42:28,880
“This is a question
of national security.”

788
00:42:29,088 --> 00:42:30,965
"Oh no! I just want to go down and see..."

789
00:42:31,049 --> 00:42:34,177
"No. You can't pass,
“It is a matter of national security.”

790
00:42:34,844 --> 00:42:36,346
For us, it didn't make sense,

791
00:42:36,429 --> 00:42:38,181
Or rather, it did make sense,

792
00:42:38,473 --> 00:42:41,059
For us at that time,

793
00:42:41,142 --> 00:42:42,435
because we were convinced

794
00:42:42,518 --> 00:42:46,481
that there was a cover-up afoot.

795
00:42:49,484 --> 00:42:51,277
There is another part,

796
00:42:51,402 --> 00:42:53,529
when the interviews took place.

797
00:42:53,613 --> 00:42:55,948
Euclid and Calado,

798
00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:58,326
two of our boys here,

799
00:42:58,409 --> 00:43:01,496
They went to the ESA in Três Corações.

800
00:43:03,539 --> 00:43:05,875
They managed to ask a question,

801
00:43:06,417 --> 00:43:09,003
Then the sergeant came in
and then he came back.

802
00:43:09,087 --> 00:43:10,129
When he returned, he said:

803
00:43:10,213 --> 00:43:12,840
“Look, aren't you going to say anything?
about the case?"

804
00:43:12,924 --> 00:43:15,468
"If you ask one more question,
They will arrest them.”

805
00:43:17,303 --> 00:43:18,429
From ESA.

806
00:43:19,097 --> 00:43:20,598
-From ESA.
-So...

807
00:43:20,681 --> 00:43:22,225
Euclid and Calado.

808
00:43:22,350 --> 00:43:24,727
Are you saying that the military chased away the press?

809
00:43:24,811 --> 00:43:26,145
-Yeah. Yes.
-Successfully.

810
00:43:26,229 --> 00:43:27,980
-They do not have freedom of the press.
-And they say...

811
00:43:28,064 --> 00:43:30,775
-Don't they have freedom of the press?
-No. They say...

812
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:33,569
If they had investigated more,

813
00:43:34,278 --> 00:43:37,115
they probably had
taken to jail.

814
00:43:39,784 --> 00:43:41,411
We are journalists.

815
00:43:41,494 --> 00:43:44,872
We were carrying out
investigations into this case

816
00:43:44,956 --> 00:43:48,543
at ESA headquarters.

817
00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:51,838
And I have never received an arrest warrant

818
00:43:51,921 --> 00:43:53,423
for doing my job.

819
00:43:53,506 --> 00:43:54,507
Never before,

820
00:43:54,590 --> 00:43:56,008
or after this case.

821
00:43:57,552 --> 00:43:58,553
MILITARY BLOCKADE

822
00:43:58,636 --> 00:44:03,015
Around the corner of the blockade
military, three little girls

823
00:44:03,099 --> 00:44:05,393
They had an encounter of the third kind.

824
00:44:05,476 --> 00:44:09,605
GIRLS MEETING

825
00:44:09,689 --> 00:44:14,444
The Valkyrie Sisters, 14
and Liliane, 16, are very scared.

826
00:44:14,861 --> 00:44:17,738
This is the first time
who visit the site,

827
00:44:17,822 --> 00:44:20,366
from Saturday, January 20.

828
00:44:21,075 --> 00:44:24,829
That round thing, so strange, was super strange.

829
00:44:24,912 --> 00:44:28,916
I had something
resembling horns on the head.

830
00:44:29,041 --> 00:44:31,461
He had brown skin

831
00:44:31,544 --> 00:44:33,546
that seemed...

832
00:44:33,629 --> 00:44:35,715
-Oil.
-...that he put oil on his body.

833
00:44:35,965 --> 00:44:39,510
He had big feet.
And very big red eyes.

834
00:44:39,802 --> 00:44:41,262
My name is Liliane Silva.

835
00:44:41,345 --> 00:44:45,391
In 1996, I saw a strange creature there.

836
00:44:46,601 --> 00:44:48,311
My name is Valquíria Silva.

837
00:44:48,394 --> 00:44:51,564
In 1996, I saw a strange creature there.

838
00:44:51,898 --> 00:44:53,524
My name is Kátia Xavier.

839
00:44:53,608 --> 00:44:57,778
In 1996, I saw a strange creature there.

840
00:45:00,531 --> 00:45:02,450
Tell us, explain to us what happened.

841
00:45:03,784 --> 00:45:05,828
What did they see?
Where did you see it?

842
00:45:06,496 --> 00:45:08,915
We were walking here.

843
00:45:08,998 --> 00:45:11,417
I was in front, and they were a little further back.

844
00:45:14,045 --> 00:45:15,630
When passing by here,

845
00:45:15,713 --> 00:45:19,050
The graffiti caught my attention.

846
00:45:22,762 --> 00:45:23,763
I looked...

847
00:45:24,889 --> 00:45:26,224
...and I saw the creature.

848
00:45:27,642 --> 00:45:28,935
Actually, when Liliane screamed,

849
00:45:29,018 --> 00:45:31,854
and when I looked at him, I was afraid.

850
00:45:37,610 --> 00:45:39,195
Then I looked him in the eyes,

851
00:45:40,029 --> 00:45:41,781
and I saw that he was scared.

852
00:45:42,573 --> 00:45:43,991
Just as I was scared,

853
00:45:44,116 --> 00:45:45,785
The creature was also scared.

854
00:45:46,577 --> 00:45:49,330
Because what I saw left me paralyzed.

855
00:45:49,747 --> 00:45:51,791
It left me glued to that place.

856
00:45:52,333 --> 00:45:55,253
But I saw that he was afraid of us.

857
00:45:55,795 --> 00:45:58,339
So, it was an exchange of fears.

858
00:45:58,422 --> 00:46:00,091
Yours and ours.

859
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,260
He had red eyes,

860
00:46:02,343 --> 00:46:03,719
oily skin...

861
00:46:03,803 --> 00:46:06,389
I didn't see any open mouths,
smiling, nothing.

862
00:46:06,472 --> 00:46:07,682
No, I wasn't happy. I was sad.

863
00:46:07,765 --> 00:46:08,849
Shrunk back.

864
00:46:08,933 --> 00:46:10,226
A sad expression.

865
00:46:11,477 --> 00:46:12,895
And he had no hair.

866
00:46:14,063 --> 00:46:15,731
1996.

867
00:46:15,940 --> 00:46:17,775
Based on the girls' testimony,

868
00:46:18,067 --> 00:46:21,737
the artist Bete Rodrigues
create this drawing.

869
00:46:21,904 --> 00:46:24,574
DRAWING BY BETE RODRIGUES

870
00:46:29,203 --> 00:46:32,248
Which seems to me to make your story
believable is that there were three of them.

871
00:46:32,873 --> 00:46:36,085
I want to listen to Valkyrie,
because she was the youngest.

872
00:46:36,460 --> 00:46:37,878
What was she thinking at that moment?

873
00:46:38,087 --> 00:46:39,839
Was he afraid?
Did you run?

874
00:46:40,172 --> 00:46:41,924
Let it take me to that moment.

875
00:46:42,049 --> 00:46:43,050
MILITARY BLOCKADE

876
00:46:43,175 --> 00:46:44,927
GIRLS MEETING

877
00:46:46,762 --> 00:46:49,056
It was a creature, there in the corner,

878
00:46:49,432 --> 00:46:50,975
cowered and scared.

879
00:46:58,232 --> 00:46:59,233
He feared us,

880
00:46:59,317 --> 00:47:01,652
just as we feared.

881
00:47:02,153 --> 00:47:04,697
This being that was unknown to us.

882
00:47:07,783 --> 00:47:11,829
These eyes, compared to mine,
how much bigger are they?

883
00:47:12,163 --> 00:47:14,290
Three times bigger than ours.

884
00:47:14,874 --> 00:47:16,083
-Three times bigger.
-Three...

885
00:47:16,167 --> 00:47:17,960
-Three times bigger.
-Quite big and red.

886
00:47:18,461 --> 00:47:20,129
Red like...

887
00:47:20,212 --> 00:47:21,589
Not blood red.

888
00:47:22,131 --> 00:47:25,217
I want to walk there
near the wall, and tell me

889
00:47:25,301 --> 00:47:27,511
where exactly the creature was.

890
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:29,096
The creature was there.

891
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:30,431
Wow.

892
00:47:30,514 --> 00:47:31,932
And we passed right by here.

893
00:47:32,475 --> 00:47:33,476
Very close.

894
00:47:33,726 --> 00:47:34,769
Then I screamed,

895
00:47:35,478 --> 00:47:36,812
I started running,

896
00:47:36,896 --> 00:47:38,064
and the two arrived.

897
00:47:38,439 --> 00:47:41,734
I didn't realize I was more
close to what I expected.

898
00:47:41,817 --> 00:47:43,694
It's eight feet away.

899
00:47:44,362 --> 00:47:45,863
They were eight feet away.
of that creature,

900
00:47:45,946 --> 00:47:48,407
in broad daylight,
It was 3:30 in the afternoon.

901
00:47:48,491 --> 00:47:53,704
This is the exact place where she made
eye contact with this creature.

902
00:47:53,788 --> 00:47:56,499
Was there any moment of communication?

903
00:47:56,582 --> 00:47:58,459
Did you feel anything at all?

904
00:47:58,542 --> 00:48:00,086
I felt like it was overheating.

905
00:48:00,169 --> 00:48:01,796
Sweating a lot.

906
00:48:01,879 --> 00:48:03,047
I was very hot.

907
00:48:03,756 --> 00:48:06,676
And it seemed like he was...

908
00:48:07,385 --> 00:48:10,304
...suffering from the heat,
the scorching sun.

909
00:48:10,388 --> 00:48:11,389
Your skin...

910
00:48:11,847 --> 00:48:13,641
When I said, “Girls, look at that!”

911
00:48:13,766 --> 00:48:15,851
Then he turned around, I saw his eyes,

912
00:48:16,102 --> 00:48:17,436
and I started running.

913
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,146
So, when he turned around,

914
00:48:19,230 --> 00:48:20,481
we only saw the eyes,

915
00:48:20,564 --> 00:48:23,192
and what looked like a slit.

916
00:48:23,275 --> 00:48:26,195
But we couldn't see
a normal mouth, like ours.

917
00:48:26,737 --> 00:48:29,198
Okay, so, this is Valkyrie...

918
00:48:29,782 --> 00:48:31,200
-This is Kátia.
-Yeah.

919
00:48:31,283 --> 00:48:32,493
And this is Liliane,

920
00:48:33,327 --> 00:48:34,954
You can see the eyes.

921
00:48:35,204 --> 00:48:38,541
They didn't draw a nose, they didn't draw a mouth,
everything revolved around the eyes.

922
00:48:38,749 --> 00:48:41,669
The first thing that caught my attention,

923
00:48:41,752 --> 00:48:43,671
Immediately, it was his eyes.

924
00:48:44,088 --> 00:48:47,049
Because they were very big,
not human size,

925
00:48:47,717 --> 00:48:49,218
not even in human form.

926
00:48:49,802 --> 00:48:56,308
I want to understand, above all,
the moment of eye contact.

927
00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:58,644
I really want to be there,
I want to feel it.

928
00:48:58,978 --> 00:49:02,815
What were they thinking when their glances
Did they cross paths with that being?

929
00:49:02,898 --> 00:49:04,734
What we saw was not human.

930
00:49:04,817 --> 00:49:07,570
Honestly, it wasn't an animal either.

931
00:49:08,362 --> 00:49:11,490
Nowadays, I do think

932
00:49:11,907 --> 00:49:14,660
that he was a being from another planet.

933
00:49:17,371 --> 00:49:20,374
He was not a man, he was not an animal.

934
00:49:20,458 --> 00:49:22,960
Now what it was, I don't know.

935
00:49:24,086 --> 00:49:26,505
I can't describe it.

936
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:28,716
Everyone ran out of here,
quickly.

937
00:49:29,216 --> 00:49:33,721
Were they afraid because they felt
threatened, or were afraid because

938
00:49:33,804 --> 00:49:35,765
they just didn't know
what were they seeing?

939
00:49:36,432 --> 00:49:38,934
I remember when we went down,

940
00:49:39,018 --> 00:49:41,687
completely terrified,
scared, running,

941
00:49:41,771 --> 00:49:44,356
-We stopped there, right?
-Yeah.

942
00:49:44,607 --> 00:49:46,233
The three of us stopped and said:

943
00:49:46,317 --> 00:49:48,110
"Girls, what happened? What did you see?"

944
00:49:48,194 --> 00:49:51,197
Wow, so all three of us saw the same thing!”

945
00:49:51,614 --> 00:49:53,032
Then we ran

946
00:49:53,115 --> 00:49:55,117
until we got to my mother's house.

947
00:49:55,993 --> 00:49:59,038
I went out to see the girls

948
00:49:59,538 --> 00:50:01,999
because mothers have a sixth sense.

949
00:50:02,082 --> 00:50:03,083
LUIZA SILVA
MOTHER

950
00:50:03,167 --> 00:50:07,296
Then I saw Kátia
almost carrying her...

951
00:50:08,380 --> 00:50:10,132
...or vice versa, I don't know.

952
00:50:10,299 --> 00:50:12,551
I saw them very nervous.

953
00:50:12,635 --> 00:50:14,804
Walking slowly,
dragging each other.

954
00:50:15,304 --> 00:50:20,351
Back then,
We were daughters of Catholics, yes?

955
00:50:20,434 --> 00:50:23,145
So it could be a demon.

956
00:50:23,229 --> 00:50:26,357
That's why we were scared
at that time.

957
00:50:26,607 --> 00:50:29,401
So the three girls
They ran home...

958
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:31,987
...and they said: "We saw this creature!

959
00:50:32,530 --> 00:50:35,825
It could have been the devil,"
or whatever. And...

960
00:50:36,158 --> 00:50:38,869
Do they get in the car and come
driving here?

961
00:50:38,953 --> 00:50:40,037
Are they walking?

962
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,206
How did they get here?
What did you see when you got here?

963
00:50:42,289 --> 00:50:44,124
Then she said:
“Let’s get the truck there.”

964
00:50:44,250 --> 00:50:45,459
And I said, “I'm not going.

965
00:50:45,543 --> 00:50:46,877
I'm afraid. "I'm not going back."

966
00:50:46,961 --> 00:50:49,213
Luiza said, “Please come with me.”

967
00:50:49,296 --> 00:50:52,007
Then I got in the truck and came back.
We parked the truck here.

968
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,260
And then there, in that same place,

969
00:50:54,343 --> 00:50:56,971
I saw the footprint of the creature.

970
00:50:57,429 --> 00:50:58,889
I will never forget it.

971
00:50:58,973 --> 00:51:00,057
Under this sun

972
00:51:01,392 --> 00:51:03,561
Just three fingertips.

973
00:51:04,019 --> 00:51:08,607
A footprint like this.
It was loose red dirt.

974
00:51:08,691 --> 00:51:10,484
That's how it was.

975
00:51:10,609 --> 00:51:13,737
Can you draw the footprint,
the shape of the footprint?

976
00:51:14,405 --> 00:51:15,406
Can...?

977
00:51:15,698 --> 00:51:16,699
Here.

978
00:51:17,741 --> 00:51:21,704
James wants
that you draw it exactly how it was.

979
00:51:21,787 --> 00:51:24,331
-I only saw the trace left by his foot.
-Yes, yes.

980
00:51:24,415 --> 00:51:25,833
I didn't see anything else.

981
00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:27,960
It was like that.

982
00:51:29,086 --> 00:51:31,005
Oh. I'm shaking.

983
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:33,549
-He's shaking.
-Look, a finger,

984
00:51:34,216 --> 00:51:36,260
another long finger,

985
00:51:36,343 --> 00:51:37,761
and another finger like this.

986
00:51:38,679 --> 00:51:42,516
Yes. This is what I saw on the ground there.

987
00:51:43,058 --> 00:51:44,727
I couldn't stand the smell.

988
00:51:44,810 --> 00:51:46,270
Right here, on the nose.

989
00:51:46,854 --> 00:51:48,522
For about twenty days.

990
00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:52,026
I don't know where that smell came from.

991
00:51:52,109 --> 00:51:55,154
I even washed my nose
with alcohol and water

992
00:51:55,237 --> 00:51:57,072
to eliminate that smell.

993
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,783
-That strong smell of...
-Ammonia.

994
00:51:59,867 --> 00:52:03,954
-No! It wasn't ammonia. It wasn't...
-Like ammonia...

995
00:52:04,455 --> 00:52:06,165
It smelled worse than sulfur.

996
00:52:06,248 --> 00:52:08,834
-I don't know, it seemed like ammonia to me.
-A strong smell.

997
00:52:09,001 --> 00:52:11,253
What a strange smell. "Let's go."

998
00:52:11,337 --> 00:52:13,714
So I grabbed her like this and said:
“Let's go!”

999
00:52:15,925 --> 00:52:18,093
Hours before the girls' meeting,

1000
00:52:18,344 --> 00:52:20,846
the fire department
captured a being.

1001
00:52:22,056 --> 00:52:26,393
The capture was investigated
by the principal investigator

1002
00:52:26,477 --> 00:52:29,897
and lawyer, Ubirajara Rodrigues.

1003
00:52:30,397 --> 00:52:32,691
The lawyer and professor Ubirajara Rodrigues,

1004
00:52:32,775 --> 00:52:34,318
who is also a ufologist,

1005
00:52:34,401 --> 00:52:36,153
said on television that they had
found clues

1006
00:52:36,236 --> 00:52:38,447
that the story is authentic.

1007
00:52:39,406 --> 00:52:42,326
The fire department
was sent to this place

1008
00:52:42,409 --> 00:52:44,495
after receiving several calls

1009
00:52:44,578 --> 00:52:49,500
from concerned neighbors who reported
having seen something strange in the
area.

1010
00:52:49,583 --> 00:52:51,210
He went into the forest.

1011
00:52:51,293 --> 00:52:52,878
Then the firefighters arrived.

1012
00:52:52,962 --> 00:52:55,798
scattering... the people.

1013
00:52:56,256 --> 00:52:58,217
The firefighters descended,

1014
00:52:58,300 --> 00:53:00,094
and some others stayed here.

1015
00:53:00,177 --> 00:53:01,637
They captured him with a net.

1016
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:03,639
Because you know, in Brazil,

1017
00:53:03,722 --> 00:53:05,224
when you have this kind of problem,

1018
00:53:05,307 --> 00:53:06,475
like being stung by wasps,

1019
00:53:06,558 --> 00:53:08,102
-or a poisonous animal, or a mad dog,
-Yes.

1020
00:53:08,185 --> 00:53:09,436
-firefighters are called.
-Firefighters are called.

1021
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,771
Then the firefighters

1022
00:53:10,854 --> 00:53:14,400
They didn't know what to do when they got here.

1023
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:17,611
We went out to look for other witnesses,

1024
00:53:18,028 --> 00:53:19,488
and we were satisfied.

1025
00:53:19,571 --> 00:53:21,865
When we were there, on the slab,
the firefighters arrived.

1026
00:53:22,324 --> 00:53:24,201
And shortly after they told us

1027
00:53:24,284 --> 00:53:26,954
that they caught an animal in the forest.

1028
00:53:27,037 --> 00:53:29,748
Did it seem strange to you?

1029
00:53:29,832 --> 00:53:31,041
What comments did they make?

1030
00:53:31,125 --> 00:53:33,544
No, they said that the animal they caught

1031
00:53:33,627 --> 00:53:34,878
I cried like a child.

1032
00:53:36,130 --> 00:53:38,882
There were two captures.

1033
00:53:39,049 --> 00:53:41,844
The first was the work of the firefighters,
in the morning.

1034
00:53:42,136 --> 00:53:44,638
Another, by the military police

1035
00:53:44,847 --> 00:53:46,265
in the afternoon.

1036
00:53:52,688 --> 00:53:54,940
My name is Pedro Luiz Aguiar.

1037
00:53:55,816 --> 00:53:57,735
I was the police chief...

1038
00:53:58,610 --> 00:54:01,196
...in Três Corações...

1039
00:54:01,864 --> 00:54:04,366
...in 1996.

1040
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:07,202
I went to the place where...

1041
00:54:07,703 --> 00:54:09,079
the creatures,

1042
00:54:09,413 --> 00:54:11,999
or the creature was captured.

1043
00:54:14,043 --> 00:54:16,170
How many survived?
How many died?

1044
00:54:17,087 --> 00:54:19,715
Look, two were talking.

1045
00:54:21,050 --> 00:54:22,885
Two, one dead and one alive.

1046
00:54:23,427 --> 00:54:26,055
What I heard was that there were two,

1047
00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:27,598
one dead and one alive,

1048
00:54:27,681 --> 00:54:29,933
and a third who disappeared.

1049
00:54:30,017 --> 00:54:34,521
-Yeah.
-How does it feel to know what you know?

1050
00:54:35,314 --> 00:54:36,482
It's history!

1051
00:54:36,565 --> 00:54:37,983
It's not a story!

1052
00:54:38,067 --> 00:54:39,818
Because I saw it.

1053
00:54:40,194 --> 00:54:43,405
Why are you talking about it now?

1054
00:54:43,989 --> 00:54:46,158
Because I trust his work...

1055
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:50,329
They are investigating something
in which I participated.

1056
00:54:52,956 --> 00:54:55,626
That's the exact place where the girls
They saw the creature,

1057
00:54:55,709 --> 00:54:58,420
right through that
wall where we already recorded with the girls.

1058
00:54:58,754 --> 00:55:01,381
I hadn't realized that
Marco Chereze, the military officer

1059
00:55:01,465 --> 00:55:03,425
that supposedly
captured the creature

1060
00:55:03,509 --> 00:55:06,345
with his own hands, he made it right here.

1061
00:55:06,512 --> 00:55:08,263
GIRLS MEETING
MILITARY BLOCKADE

1062
00:55:08,639 --> 00:55:12,601
About three hours after the
girls saw the strange creature,

1063
00:55:13,060 --> 00:55:14,728
military police,

1064
00:55:14,937 --> 00:55:19,149
Eric Lopes and Marco Chereze
They travel on this road,

1065
00:55:19,233 --> 00:55:21,527
watch out for something unusual,

1066
00:55:22,444 --> 00:55:25,489
when suddenly
It crosses right into your path.

1067
00:55:25,572 --> 00:55:26,615
RECREATION

1068
00:55:27,616 --> 00:55:29,618
The agents got out of the car.

1069
00:55:29,868 --> 00:55:33,914
Mainly, Marco Chereze
took action.

1070
00:55:34,331 --> 00:55:36,625
He grabbed the creature, pinned it down.

1071
00:55:36,792 --> 00:55:40,879
RECREATION

1072
00:55:40,963 --> 00:55:45,717
He was captured by Marco Eli Chereze
with his own hands,

1073
00:55:46,093 --> 00:55:48,095
easily, and they took him to the hospital.

1074
00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:49,221
RECREATION

1075
00:55:52,766 --> 00:55:54,560
Aside from second-hand rumors

1076
00:55:54,643 --> 00:55:56,728
about what happened
inside the hospital,

1077
00:55:57,062 --> 00:55:58,981
spread by anonymous sources
,

1078
00:55:59,356 --> 00:56:02,818
little is known about what happened to him
to the supposed extraterrestrial.

1079
00:56:03,485 --> 00:56:06,363
The driver, Eric Lopes,
is a fugitive,

1080
00:56:06,572 --> 00:56:09,158
and the agent who managed the being,

1081
00:56:09,241 --> 00:56:12,286
Marco Chereze, died a
couple of weeks later.

1082
00:56:13,787 --> 00:56:15,539
After capturing the creature,

1083
00:56:15,956 --> 00:56:20,752
it smelled like this creature
on his body and clothes...

1084
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:24,756
...because I had
a strange feeling of something

1085
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:29,511
greasy and sticky all over the body,
product of the creature.

1086
00:56:29,803 --> 00:56:30,804
CAPTURE PLACE

1087
00:56:32,181 --> 00:56:34,141
Developed an infection...

1088
00:56:35,225 --> 00:56:36,977
...that didn't disappear.

1089
00:56:37,811 --> 00:56:44,193
And for two or three weeks the situation
It got worse and worse.

1090
00:56:44,735 --> 00:56:48,447
And it seems that your immune system
it went off.

1091
00:56:49,489 --> 00:56:54,077
These were the words used
by one of the doctors who treated him,

1092
00:56:54,536 --> 00:57:01,543
who said he never saw anything
throughout his entire medical career like that.

1093
00:57:06,256 --> 00:57:07,257
And that infection

1094
00:57:07,925 --> 00:57:09,051
killed him.

1095
00:57:12,221 --> 00:57:13,513
Good afternoon.

1096
00:57:13,597 --> 00:57:15,974
My name is Cesário Furtado, I am a doctor,

1097
00:57:16,391 --> 00:57:18,227
an intensive care cardiologist.

1098
00:57:18,769 --> 00:57:21,855
I have been working in the city for 45 years.

1099
00:57:23,565 --> 00:57:26,276
In 1996,

1100
00:57:26,693 --> 00:57:30,489
was here when the event,

1101
00:57:31,031 --> 00:57:32,366
the appearance

1102
00:57:32,449 --> 00:57:34,993
of extraterrestrial beings
They happened in the city.

1103
00:57:35,577 --> 00:57:39,831
I had to attend to

1104
00:57:40,415 --> 00:57:43,335
Marco Chereze,
who was the military officer who,

1105
00:57:43,669 --> 00:57:47,422
As people say, he was
involved in the case at that time.

1106
00:57:47,965 --> 00:57:49,299
and we

1107
00:57:50,175 --> 00:57:51,510
we take it to the unit
intensive care

1108
00:57:51,593 --> 00:57:53,178
and we apply all the treatments.

1109
00:57:53,512 --> 00:57:55,389
and passed away

1110
00:57:55,931 --> 00:57:58,684
for undetermined cause.

1111
00:57:59,017 --> 00:58:01,687
An unknown cause at that time,

1112
00:58:01,770 --> 00:58:02,813
for us doctors.

1113
00:58:09,319 --> 00:58:12,155
All the witnesses who claim...

1114
00:58:13,073 --> 00:58:16,952
...that Marco Chereze caught
a creature, a strange creature,

1115
00:58:17,035 --> 00:58:18,912
It doesn't have to be from another world,

1116
00:58:18,996 --> 00:58:22,249
It was a strange creature,
contracted an unknown infection...

1117
00:58:22,416 --> 00:58:25,335
did everything possible
to save him and he died.

1118
00:58:25,836 --> 00:58:29,214
Do you think that story
Does it have any credibility?

1119
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,050
Yes, it is a believable story.

1120
00:58:32,134 --> 00:58:34,845
He laid this out...

1121
00:58:36,847 --> 00:58:38,390
...to reveal what happened

1122
00:58:38,765 --> 00:58:43,478
to try to help himself
to save his life.

1123
00:58:43,562 --> 00:58:46,023
Because he felt like he was dying.

1124
00:58:46,315 --> 00:58:48,608
And, according to his sister,

1125
00:58:49,192 --> 00:58:50,777
was restricted

1126
00:58:51,278 --> 00:58:53,113
to talk about it.

1127
00:58:53,655 --> 00:58:54,906
Marco Eli Chereze,

1128
00:58:54,990 --> 00:58:57,576
who was 23 years old,
He worked for police intelligence.

1129
00:58:57,659 --> 00:59:00,037
The family only knows
that he was participating

1130
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,788
in a secret operation.

1131
00:59:02,205 --> 00:59:05,500
Can you confirm that your brother
Was he working on the 20th?

1132
00:59:05,584 --> 00:59:07,002
I confirm it.

1133
00:59:07,753 --> 00:59:09,504
My name is Martha. Marta Tavares.

1134
00:59:09,588 --> 00:59:10,672
I am the sister of the military officer who

1135
00:59:10,756 --> 00:59:12,966
was involved in the case
extraterrestrial.

1136
00:59:13,050 --> 00:59:15,635
in January 1996.

1137
00:59:18,722 --> 00:59:20,432
When his brother gets sick,

1138
00:59:20,891 --> 00:59:23,894
she asks him about
his participation in the case.

1139
00:59:24,102 --> 00:59:25,729
"This story of the creature,

1140
00:59:25,812 --> 00:59:27,272
this alien,

1141
00:59:27,356 --> 00:59:28,690
Is it true?"

1142
00:59:29,107 --> 00:59:30,484
His response was:

1143
00:59:30,734 --> 00:59:34,363
“Look, this story
It’s going to be very important.”

1144
00:59:36,365 --> 00:59:41,203
In 2002, renowned researcher
of UFOs, Dr. Roger Leir,

1145
00:59:41,286 --> 00:59:44,456
He traveled to Varginha to investigate the case.

1146
00:59:44,956 --> 00:59:49,544
He conducted the only interview with the
wife of deceased military officer.

1147
00:59:49,753 --> 00:59:53,048
Do you know if anyone has seen
the medical report?

1148
00:59:53,715 --> 00:59:56,968
Do you know someone who has
seen any medical report?

1149
00:59:57,302 --> 00:59:59,513
No, after they delivered it...

1150
00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:02,099
First, they wanted money in return.

1151
01:00:02,182 --> 01:00:05,102
They took a long time and there were pages missing.

1152
01:00:05,685 --> 01:00:07,604
Nobody knew how to explain anything.

1153
01:00:08,021 --> 01:00:11,608
I was always looking for an explanation,
but none came, none.

1154
01:00:12,442 --> 01:00:14,694
She wanted... she sought...

1155
01:00:14,778 --> 01:00:16,905
After a long legal battle,

1156
01:00:16,988 --> 01:00:19,908
the family finally received
the death certificate.

1157
01:00:20,033 --> 01:00:25,038
It was produced by the IPD Laboratory,
the Prevention Institute

1158
01:00:25,122 --> 01:00:27,457
and Diagnostics in Varginha.

1159
01:00:27,916 --> 01:00:29,334
This exam here

1160
01:00:30,168 --> 01:00:34,005
indicates the presence of granular toxin,

1161
01:00:34,423 --> 01:00:37,217
shows 8%
of fine-grained neutrophils.

1162
01:00:37,342 --> 01:00:41,221
There was an unidentifiable substance.

1163
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,600
Therefore, he died from
of a general infection,

1164
01:00:45,684 --> 01:00:47,936
but it was not a justified cause.

1165
01:00:49,146 --> 01:00:52,315
For the first time in history,
Dr. João Janini,

1166
01:00:52,399 --> 01:00:54,651
founder of IPD Laboratories

1167
01:00:54,734 --> 01:00:57,612
agreed to appear
on camera for our team.

1168
01:00:58,029 --> 01:01:02,534
I have performed more than 50,000 autopsies
throughout my life,

1169
01:01:02,617 --> 01:01:04,870
and more than a million
of microscopic studies.

1170
01:01:04,953 --> 01:01:06,913
I have never seen a case like this.

1171
01:01:07,289 --> 01:01:11,126
The legacy of the E.T. from Varginha
are the bacteria,

1172
01:01:11,209 --> 01:01:12,919
and we talk about E.T. all the time

1173
01:01:13,003 --> 01:01:14,796
but never on bacteria.

1174
01:01:14,921 --> 01:01:17,799
And this is what captures our attention.

1175
01:01:18,175 --> 01:01:20,552
Former municipal health secretary

1176
01:01:20,635 --> 01:01:24,931
and current forensic pathologist,
Dr. Armando Fortunato,

1177
01:01:25,348 --> 01:01:29,811
performed the autopsy
microscopic to officer Marco Chereze.

1178
01:01:33,148 --> 01:01:38,570
What has caught the world's attention is
the body of the alien in Varginha.

1179
01:01:38,653 --> 01:01:40,071
The E.T. or extraterrestrial.

1180
01:01:40,197 --> 01:01:43,492
But I think that the bacteria that was found

1181
01:01:43,575 --> 01:01:45,535
It's a trail he left behind.

1182
01:01:45,619 --> 01:01:47,287
There is life,

1183
01:01:47,370 --> 01:01:50,582
when talking about biology
and biochemical evolution,

1184
01:01:50,665 --> 01:01:52,042
it's a trail

1185
01:01:52,125 --> 01:01:54,878
-of biomolecular evolution.
-A tremendous resistance.

1186
01:01:55,045 --> 01:01:58,048
Bacterial resistance
in an extremely atypical case.

1187
01:01:58,256 --> 01:02:03,678
If you could explain to me for 15 or 20 seconds
about what he thinks happened.

1188
01:02:05,972 --> 01:02:10,268
According to the information I have collected,

1189
01:02:10,810 --> 01:02:15,524
It was a scratch on Chereze's skin

1190
01:02:15,649 --> 01:02:17,067
made by the E.T.

1191
01:02:17,442 --> 01:02:21,154
I think he was a victim of

1192
01:02:21,238 --> 01:02:22,989
the nail of the E.T.

1193
01:02:25,534 --> 01:02:28,161
Why was he resisting?

1194
01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:32,791
What kind of biochemical advantage did it have?

1195
01:02:33,291 --> 01:02:38,004
to resist antibiotics?

1196
01:02:38,380 --> 01:02:40,173
Nothing could disturb him.

1197
01:02:40,924 --> 01:02:42,425
It destroyed everything.

1198
01:02:42,801 --> 01:02:44,135
In a week.

1199
01:02:44,553 --> 01:02:46,638
Very, very atypical.

1200
01:02:47,889 --> 01:02:51,851
Was it Marco Chereze
the only person infected...

1201
01:02:52,477 --> 01:02:53,478
...who died?

1202
01:02:53,603 --> 01:02:54,604
We don't know.

1203
01:02:55,313 --> 01:03:00,777
Were these two creatures the only ones
who survived the accident?

1204
01:03:01,236 --> 01:03:03,154
We don't know.
We only have

1205
01:03:04,531 --> 01:03:08,493
very detailed information about

1206
01:03:08,577 --> 01:03:11,121
the existence and capture of these two.

1207
01:03:11,413 --> 01:03:16,042
A catch in the morning
and another in the afternoon of the same day,

1208
01:03:16,126 --> 01:03:18,003
January 20, 1996.

1209
01:03:19,671 --> 01:03:23,258
The only surviving witness
of the second capture that night

1210
01:03:23,341 --> 01:03:26,845
was the driver of the car
,
who has been missing.

1211
01:03:29,222 --> 01:03:31,141
The commanding officer who was driving the car

1212
01:03:31,224 --> 01:03:32,475
It was Corporal Lopes.

1213
01:03:34,394 --> 01:03:38,940
He is living proof of what happened.

1214
01:03:39,232 --> 01:03:40,358
RECREATION

1215
01:03:40,442 --> 01:03:42,736
He participated in the capture.

1216
01:03:43,528 --> 01:03:45,739
My brother was his subordinate.

1217
01:03:49,367 --> 01:03:51,369
Has anyone seen Eric Lopes?

1218
01:03:51,494 --> 01:03:53,538
Has anyone tried to talk
with him ever?

1219
01:03:53,622 --> 01:03:56,583
-People have tried to contact him.
-Have they tried it?

1220
01:03:56,666 --> 01:03:58,543
-Yeah.
-And nothing.

1221
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,671
With the help of the mayor
of Varginha, Vérdi,

1222
01:04:01,755 --> 01:04:04,215
the team contacts Mr. da Costa,

1223
01:04:04,507 --> 01:04:07,802
a military police corporal in 1996.

1224
01:04:08,219 --> 01:04:13,933
His son, Romulo Ribeiro, accepts
accompany them to Eric Lopes' house.

1225
01:04:14,851 --> 01:04:17,312
-OK.
-I'll take you there and you'll talk to him.

1226
01:04:17,395 --> 01:04:19,022
-OK.
-I will introduce myself,

1227
01:04:19,105 --> 01:04:21,316
then I'll pass it on to you
because they are the professionals.

1228
01:04:21,399 --> 01:04:22,442
-OK.
-Thank you.

1229
01:04:23,943 --> 01:04:24,944
All good.

1230
01:04:26,613 --> 01:04:28,948
For God's sake. Are you serious?

1231
01:04:29,699 --> 01:04:30,784
Let's go there...

1232
01:04:31,618 --> 01:04:32,619
Yes.

1233
01:04:32,744 --> 01:04:36,623
Eric Lopes is the official
P2 military police,

1234
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,460
who reportedly drove the car
during the second capture

1235
01:04:40,669 --> 01:04:42,170
with Marco Chereze.

1236
01:04:44,422 --> 01:04:47,258
Not even the family
of the deceased officer

1237
01:04:47,342 --> 01:04:50,053
has been able to obtain
a statement from Lopes.

1238
01:04:51,054 --> 01:04:52,055
Yes.

1239
01:04:52,639 --> 01:04:54,557
He hides.

1240
01:04:54,641 --> 01:04:56,017
He's hiding, huh?

1241
01:04:56,267 --> 01:05:01,523
If the reports are true, he is the
only living witness to the second capture.

1242
01:05:03,066 --> 01:05:06,903
Officer Lopes carries
26 years old, untraceable.

1243
01:05:07,237 --> 01:05:08,238
We hope...

1244
01:05:09,072 --> 01:05:10,407
...let me speak...

1245
01:05:10,824 --> 01:05:12,200
-first.
-Oh, my God.

1246
01:05:12,575 --> 01:05:14,285
I will go with him.
I'm going with him.

1247
01:05:25,255 --> 01:05:26,256
Eric!

1248
01:05:28,550 --> 01:05:29,551
Eric!

1249
01:05:30,218 --> 01:05:32,178
Eric... How are you?

1250
01:05:32,470 --> 01:05:33,888
We want to talk...

1251
01:05:34,139 --> 01:05:36,599
If it's the alien...

1252
01:05:37,350 --> 01:05:39,227
he will not speak.

1253
01:05:39,310 --> 01:05:41,062
He's going to eliminate you with bullets.

1254
01:05:41,563 --> 01:05:42,856
Can't we?

1255
01:05:43,064 --> 01:05:44,816
They're going to get into trouble!

1256
01:05:44,899 --> 01:05:47,026
Tell him the mayor gave us his approval.

1257
01:05:47,777 --> 01:05:50,989
-Tell him that the mayor said...
-Are you okay? All good?

1258
01:05:51,072 --> 01:05:52,741
They're going to get in trouble.

1259
01:05:53,116 --> 01:05:55,618
It's... I don't know, it seems...

1260
01:05:56,035 --> 01:05:57,036
-Okay.
-All good?

1261
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,121
Is it Eric Lopes?

1262
01:05:58,705 --> 01:05:59,873
Allow me...
Wait a moment, please.

1263
01:05:59,956 --> 01:06:01,499
Let me ask you a question.

1264
01:06:01,666 --> 01:06:03,376
-A question. Please.
-He...

1265
01:06:03,460 --> 01:06:05,879
-It's not Eric, it's Eirc's friend.
-Uh-huh.

1266
01:06:05,962 --> 01:06:08,548
-He is his friend, Lopes's friend.
-Oh, I understand.

1267
01:06:09,132 --> 01:06:11,968
I'll shoot you!

1268
01:06:12,802 --> 01:06:14,846
-He doesn't accept.
-He doesn't accept.

1269
01:06:14,929 --> 01:06:15,930
Wait, wait!

1270
01:06:16,890 --> 01:06:18,600
Just ask him a question for me.

1271
01:06:18,808 --> 01:06:20,852
I just want to ask you a question, sir.

1272
01:06:20,935 --> 01:06:22,854
-They will get into trouble.
-He doesn't accept it.

1273
01:06:22,937 --> 01:06:27,108
-No, he...
-Will you ever give a testimony?

1274
01:06:28,443 --> 01:06:30,820
He's asking you, sir,

1275
01:06:30,904 --> 01:06:35,033
If you think Lopes could...

1276
01:06:35,575 --> 01:06:36,868
I'm Lopes.

1277
01:06:38,286 --> 01:06:39,579
What is happening?

1278
01:06:40,955 --> 01:06:43,583
This is Eric Lopes' house.

1279
01:06:44,042 --> 01:06:47,504
-Yeah.
-But he doesn't like to talk.

1280
01:06:48,421 --> 01:06:51,090
They're talking, let's see...

1281
01:06:55,011 --> 01:06:56,012
Are you Eric?

1282
01:06:56,554 --> 01:06:57,680
I didn't know you were Eric.

1283
01:06:58,890 --> 01:07:00,266
If I could just

1284
01:07:00,350 --> 01:07:01,643
-tell us...
-No, he doesn't want to.

1285
01:07:01,726 --> 01:07:03,311
-Don't you want to talk? No problem.
-He doesn't want to.

1286
01:07:03,561 --> 01:07:05,855
-All good. May God be with you.
-Thank you!

1287
01:07:05,939 --> 01:07:08,024
Thank you. May God be with you.

1288
01:07:08,107 --> 01:07:10,151
So Eric won't talk?

1289
01:07:10,235 --> 01:07:12,362
-No.
-What happened? I'm... What happened?

1290
01:07:12,695 --> 01:07:13,696
Is that Eric Lopes?

1291
01:07:13,780 --> 01:07:15,365
-Yes, he doesn't want to talk.
-Who is it?

1292
01:07:15,490 --> 01:07:17,450
-Yes, it's Eric Lopes.
-Is it Eric Lopes?

1293
01:07:17,534 --> 01:07:18,910
-Yeah.
-It's over.

1294
01:07:18,993 --> 01:07:21,287
-It doesn't mean anything.
-I'll tell you later.

1295
01:07:21,579 --> 01:07:23,706
-Is it over? Good, good.
-Yes, let's go.

1296
01:07:24,249 --> 01:07:25,875
-My God. It was him.
-Thank you!

1297
01:07:25,959 --> 01:07:26,960
Thank you!

1298
01:07:27,210 --> 01:07:30,129
We just saw it. Oh, oh, oh.

1299
01:07:30,213 --> 01:07:31,256
What happened?

1300
01:07:32,507 --> 01:07:33,591
Good, good.

1301
01:07:34,092 --> 01:07:35,093
Let's talk.

1302
01:07:35,552 --> 01:07:37,387
Did you record it?
Dave, did you get it?

1303
01:07:37,470 --> 01:07:39,347
Please tell me you got it.
Damn, friend...

1304
01:07:39,430 --> 01:07:40,640
That was Eric Lopes.

1305
01:07:41,224 --> 01:07:43,059
For God's sake, did you film it through the window?

1306
01:07:43,142 --> 01:07:44,936
-Yeah.
-Shit!

1307
01:07:45,603 --> 01:07:48,231
-My God, you recorded it!
-He was at the window the whole time.

1308
01:07:48,648 --> 01:07:51,651
This was confirmed here.
I'm right about Eric Lopes...

1309
01:07:52,443 --> 01:07:58,408
And he said... that if we didn't get out of here,
He would shoot us.

1310
01:07:58,533 --> 01:08:00,243
-Is he going to shoot you?
-Yeah.

1311
01:08:00,869 --> 01:08:02,328
Shit.

1312
01:08:03,121 --> 01:08:07,208
If that guy had nothing to hide,
I would have just said it.

1313
01:08:09,168 --> 01:08:11,588
-That guy was driving the car
-Yes.

1314
01:08:11,671 --> 01:08:12,922
in which Marco Chereze was riding.

1315
01:08:14,090 --> 01:08:17,010
A few hours after the meeting
of the girls with the alien

1316
01:08:17,093 --> 01:08:19,387
and his capture by the military police,

1317
01:08:19,804 --> 01:08:22,765
an entire family that lives
a few blocks from there

1318
01:08:22,849 --> 01:08:26,895
they witnessed a ufo
methodically maneuvering through the area.

1319
01:08:27,770 --> 01:08:31,941
If true, its sighting could
involve an operation
alien

1320
01:08:32,025 --> 01:08:33,985
search and rescue.

1321
01:08:34,694 --> 01:08:36,863
When we arrive with the cameras rolling,

1322
01:08:36,946 --> 01:08:39,240
the family did not want to do
public statements.

1323
01:08:39,490 --> 01:08:40,491
Wait, let me ask.

1324
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,619
-Let me ask.
-Yeah.

1325
01:08:43,578 --> 01:08:46,664
How about we film the back
of their heads while they talk to me?

1326
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,751
-It won't show anything.
-No, I don't want...

1327
01:08:50,126 --> 01:08:52,545
No, it won't show it.

1328
01:08:52,795 --> 01:08:54,923
No, I just want to comment on the story.

1329
01:08:55,298 --> 01:08:57,383
-Hey, Fernanda, we have two options.
-Yeah.

1330
01:08:57,467 --> 01:08:59,010
-Good.
-Good? First,

1331
01:08:59,469 --> 01:09:02,472
we blur their faces,
no problem, and we will do it.

1332
01:09:02,555 --> 01:09:06,809
Two, we film from behind
and their faces are never seen.

1333
01:09:07,769 --> 01:09:08,895
Like the doctor.

1334
01:09:09,604 --> 01:09:13,149
And everyone saw the UFO
right over this area.

1335
01:09:13,691 --> 01:09:17,987
It seemed like they were looking for something,
as if they were searching.

1336
01:09:18,529 --> 01:09:20,490
And this is a very respectable family.

1337
01:09:20,573 --> 01:09:22,867
They don't want their faces
appear on camera.

1338
01:09:23,451 --> 01:09:25,954
They want to talk and tell what they saw,
but they don't want their faces to be seen

1339
01:09:26,037 --> 01:09:28,998
in front of the cameras, which... happens.

1340
01:09:30,041 --> 01:09:34,087
Well, we are very close to the area where

1341
01:09:34,170 --> 01:09:35,588
the girls saw the creature.

1342
01:09:35,672 --> 01:09:38,007
It was January 1996.

1343
01:09:38,132 --> 01:09:39,342
This whole family

1344
01:09:39,592 --> 01:09:41,260
saw something they want
share with us,

1345
01:09:41,344 --> 01:09:43,304
but they don't want it
their faces are revealed.

1346
01:09:43,638 --> 01:09:44,806
What did they see, then?

1347
01:09:45,223 --> 01:09:48,434
The delivery man arrived on a motorcycle,

1348
01:09:48,726 --> 01:09:50,311
and brought us food.

1349
01:09:50,395 --> 01:09:53,189
suddenly,
There is something huge about our house.

1350
01:09:53,272 --> 01:09:54,440
A red light.

1351
01:09:54,524 --> 01:09:57,318
Very red, and like a sphere,

1352
01:09:57,944 --> 01:09:59,362
spinning very fast.

1353
01:09:59,946 --> 01:10:04,158
Very fast.
I wanted to really focus on it.

1354
01:10:04,742 --> 01:10:06,494
Everything was like,

1355
01:10:06,577 --> 01:10:10,331
solid, like when I look at these walls,
but totally abnormal.

1356
01:10:10,790 --> 01:10:12,208
Something like...

1357
01:10:13,668 --> 01:10:15,795
I don't know if it was from another planet.

1358
01:10:15,878 --> 01:10:17,547
It was a flying disc.

1359
01:10:17,630 --> 01:10:19,257
“This can't be…”

1360
01:10:19,340 --> 01:10:22,301
And I can't say how many minutes.

1361
01:10:22,385 --> 01:10:23,845
They were scared.

1362
01:10:24,220 --> 01:10:25,805
The three of them looking...

1363
01:10:25,972 --> 01:10:28,975
-I stayed staring at him...
-It was suspended in the air.

1364
01:10:29,058 --> 01:10:30,893
-Floating and spinning...
-Like this.

1365
01:10:30,977 --> 01:10:33,312
I was looking for something here.

1366
01:10:33,396 --> 01:10:34,689
-I was searching.
-Very red...

1367
01:10:34,772 --> 01:10:36,607
But it was red, very red.

1368
01:10:36,691 --> 01:10:37,942
-And silver everywhere.
-A sphere...

1369
01:10:38,026 --> 01:10:39,402
Like a sphere...

1370
01:10:39,485 --> 01:10:43,114
And searching, really searching for something.

1371
01:10:43,197 --> 01:10:45,908
-And we stayed looking at him.
-We stared at him for 15 minutes.

1372
01:10:45,992 --> 01:10:49,203
"What I'm seeing today,
"I've never seen him in my life."

1373
01:10:49,287 --> 01:10:51,789
I don't know why God
gave me this opportunity.

1374
01:10:52,123 --> 01:10:53,291
It was real.

1375
01:10:53,624 --> 01:10:56,753
This happened.
There was no way it could be anything else.

1376
01:10:56,836 --> 01:11:00,298
The Varginha case was real!

1377
01:11:01,799 --> 01:11:04,844
Evidently, the family was not the only one
in witnessing the sighting.

1378
01:11:05,595 --> 01:11:08,556
They see a UFO.
The UFO approaches them.

1379
01:11:08,639 --> 01:11:11,976
Up to the point where it is
at the height of that streetlight.

1380
01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:13,311
And then what happens?

1381
01:11:13,394 --> 01:11:16,189
-It was round, a round shape.
-As...

1382
01:11:16,314 --> 01:11:17,356
It was round.

1383
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:18,733
And it was spinning...

1384
01:11:18,816 --> 01:11:21,152
He seemed to be looking for something

1385
01:11:21,235 --> 01:11:23,863
because he came closer,

1386
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,908
and remained motionless for a time.

1387
01:11:26,991 --> 01:11:29,911
I realized that what I was looking for
It wasn't there.

1388
01:11:29,994 --> 01:11:32,580
And then he turned around and left.
You understand me?

1389
01:11:32,663 --> 01:11:35,041
I was paralyzed because,

1390
01:11:35,374 --> 01:11:37,168
At that time, I was

1391
01:11:37,543 --> 01:11:39,504
incredulous, I said...

1392
01:11:39,587 --> 01:11:42,340
It was my mother and me.
We couldn't believe it.

1393
01:11:45,384 --> 01:11:49,597
A couple of months later,
a similar object was captured on video

1394
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,766
southeast of Varginha.

1395
01:11:54,602 --> 01:11:56,229
It's a record, mom.

1396
01:11:56,896 --> 01:11:59,690
-And a week later, right?
-Yeah.

1397
01:11:59,774 --> 01:12:02,610
-Some people... Yes, yes.
-Ubirajara, ufologists.

1398
01:12:02,693 --> 01:12:04,487
-Some people from NASA.
-People of

1399
01:12:04,570 --> 01:12:06,739
NASA, I don't know if they were...

1400
01:12:06,823 --> 01:12:08,574
They were also American

1401
01:12:08,658 --> 01:12:09,951
those who came here,

1402
01:12:10,284 --> 01:12:12,620
and they stayed a long time
talking to us,

1403
01:12:12,703 --> 01:12:14,080
talking late into the night.

1404
01:12:14,163 --> 01:12:15,581
And what caught my attention,

1405
01:12:15,665 --> 01:12:19,168
When they left, they said:
"This conversation never happened."

1406
01:12:19,836 --> 01:12:21,420
I heard about "Americana."

1407
01:12:21,504 --> 01:12:22,713
-Did you say American?
-Yeah.

1408
01:12:22,797 --> 01:12:24,298
What was that about?

1409
01:12:25,341 --> 01:12:26,884
Some American officers?

1410
01:12:27,218 --> 01:12:28,886
-They came here.
-They came here...

1411
01:12:29,053 --> 01:12:31,264
-to talk about what they saw.
-Yeah.

1412
01:12:31,347 --> 01:12:32,348
Americans.

1413
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,143
Were they military? Were they police?

1414
01:12:35,726 --> 01:12:36,727
Who were they?

1415
01:12:36,811 --> 01:12:39,605
No. They came dressed as civilians.

1416
01:12:39,689 --> 01:12:41,232
Normal.

1417
01:12:41,315 --> 01:12:42,775
They arrived with Ubirajara.

1418
01:12:42,859 --> 01:12:45,820
Ubirajara, the researcher
of UFOs of the time.

1419
01:12:46,362 --> 01:12:49,115
-Correct.
-They have all our statements.

1420
01:12:49,198 --> 01:12:52,326
The people were Americans,

1421
01:12:52,410 --> 01:12:53,786
but I don't know who.

1422
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:59,584
Is there any conventional explanation
for what they saw?

1423
01:13:00,251 --> 01:13:02,545
I'm saying what I saw
with my own eyes.

1424
01:13:02,837 --> 01:13:04,589
I don't need to lie.

1425
01:13:04,672 --> 01:13:06,215
I never wanted to give an interview.

1426
01:13:06,299 --> 01:13:09,760
I'm doing this interview
without showing my face...

1427
01:13:10,094 --> 01:13:12,305
It's real. 100% real.

1428
01:13:12,388 --> 01:13:14,432
I kept looking at this
for 10 or 15 minutes

1429
01:13:14,515 --> 01:13:16,267
to be sure
of what I'm saying.

1430
01:13:23,691 --> 01:13:25,234
I just want to review...

1431
01:13:26,277 --> 01:13:27,737
...that interview.

1432
01:13:27,987 --> 01:13:30,573
And what I find...
First of all,

1433
01:13:30,948 --> 01:13:35,369
they doubted that they even wanted to go out
on camera, they canceled yesterday.

1434
01:13:35,786 --> 01:13:37,580
Today they said: "Mmm...

1435
01:13:38,164 --> 01:13:41,125
We don't want..."
Sorry, a truck is coming.

1436
01:13:41,209 --> 01:13:43,294
"We don't want our faces
appear on camera."

1437
01:13:43,377 --> 01:13:44,503
It was a whole family.

1438
01:13:44,587 --> 01:13:46,088
And everyone saw this object.

1439
01:13:46,172 --> 01:13:47,673
And it was really big.

1440
01:13:48,132 --> 01:13:49,258
Disc-shaped.

1441
01:13:49,675 --> 01:13:50,760
No noise.

1442
01:13:51,886 --> 01:13:53,638
You have witnesses like that.

1443
01:13:53,721 --> 01:13:56,474
They are friends of the doctor, the guy
to whom we rent the house.

1444
01:13:56,807 --> 01:14:00,394
It shows that they have been saving that
history for 26 years.

1445
01:14:00,853 --> 01:14:03,856
How excited I was to be able to
finally share it!

1446
01:14:31,509 --> 01:14:32,969
It was a normal day.

1447
01:14:33,511 --> 01:14:35,888
When suddenly,
on the school polo field,

1448
01:14:35,972 --> 01:14:37,556
A Navy helicopter landed.

1449
01:14:38,015 --> 01:14:40,935
REAL PHOTOGRAPHY, THAT
JANUARY 1996

1450
01:14:41,143 --> 01:14:43,396
And then a great movement began

1451
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,023
of vehicles that entered the barracks.

1452
01:14:48,734 --> 01:14:50,194
I was standing in line at the bank,

1453
01:14:50,278 --> 01:14:51,654
to receive my payment,

1454
01:14:51,737 --> 01:14:54,323
when a Navy truck
parked outside,

1455
01:14:54,407 --> 01:14:56,492
and the military hurriedly pushed

1456
01:14:56,575 --> 01:14:58,202
a metal box inside.

1457
01:15:03,374 --> 01:15:06,794
Unusual activity was recorded at the base.

1458
01:15:07,670 --> 01:15:11,215
There were Navy helicopters,

1459
01:15:11,757 --> 01:15:13,551
which, in itself, was unusual.

1460
01:15:13,718 --> 01:15:15,094
-He sees a box.
-Yeah.

1461
01:15:16,512 --> 01:15:17,972
Was the box unusual?

1462
01:15:19,724 --> 01:15:21,058
What caught my attention

1463
01:15:21,142 --> 01:15:24,854
was the reason why the Navy
I would take this box from the infirmary.

1464
01:15:25,980 --> 01:15:27,398
INFANTRY

1465
01:15:27,857 --> 01:15:32,111
The Navy ordered us
for us to get out of there.

1466
01:15:34,947 --> 01:15:36,657
The commanding general said:

1467
01:15:36,741 --> 01:15:38,617
“There are rumors

1468
01:15:38,701 --> 01:15:40,870
that they went to Varginha and collected

1469
01:15:40,953 --> 01:15:42,538
some creature."

1470
01:15:44,332 --> 01:15:47,501
SCHOOL OF ARMED SERGEANTS
TRÊS CORAÇÕES, BRAZIL

1471
01:15:47,585 --> 01:15:49,003
"The creature is here,

1472
01:15:49,086 --> 01:15:51,630
and the press wants in."

1473
01:15:55,634 --> 01:15:57,219
It was really strange.

1474
01:15:58,095 --> 01:15:59,221
Very strange.

1475
01:16:01,349 --> 01:16:05,936
my squad
participated directly in the mission

1476
01:16:06,437 --> 01:16:08,606
because we transport it.

1477
01:16:11,192 --> 01:16:13,861
So I avoided talking about it
with my company.

1478
01:16:18,366 --> 01:16:22,078
Shortly after,
the drivers who went to Varginha

1479
01:16:22,161 --> 01:16:26,040
They received the order to go
to the commander's office.

1480
01:16:26,499 --> 01:16:28,167
And we never saw them again.

1481
01:16:28,250 --> 01:16:29,460
So, until today,

1482
01:16:29,877 --> 01:16:32,838
have you talked to anyone
What was Varginha?

1483
01:16:33,422 --> 01:16:35,049
-No. No.
-No.

1484
01:16:35,299 --> 01:16:37,093
-Nothing?
-Yeah.

1485
01:16:37,385 --> 01:16:38,386
Wow.

1486
01:16:43,891 --> 01:16:45,226
According to the witness,

1487
01:16:45,309 --> 01:16:48,229
It wasn't just the drivers
that they never saw each other again.

1488
01:16:48,854 --> 01:16:53,943
Its captain, Edson Ramires,
He also left without saying a word.

1489
01:16:54,485 --> 01:16:56,904
He was everyone's friend.

1490
01:16:56,987 --> 01:16:58,155
I talked to everyone,

1491
01:16:58,239 --> 01:16:59,740
helped everyone...

1492
01:16:59,824 --> 01:17:01,409
He was not a person who

1493
01:17:01,492 --> 01:17:04,203
He just left without saying goodbye.

1494
01:17:13,087 --> 01:17:15,256
January 1996.

1495
01:17:15,589 --> 01:17:19,093
A radiologist receives a visit
unexpected from the military

1496
01:17:19,343 --> 01:17:22,346
while on duty
at the Regional Hospital.

1497
01:17:22,763 --> 01:17:27,726
He agrees to share his story, as long as
when your identity remains hidden.

1498
01:17:28,102 --> 01:17:31,605
Outside the fenced yard was a truck.

1499
01:17:32,231 --> 01:17:33,941
From ESA, military.

1500
01:17:35,192 --> 01:17:37,361
There was a Jeep in the yard

1501
01:17:37,445 --> 01:17:38,904
with more military personnel,

1502
01:17:39,238 --> 01:17:42,658
and another eight or ten police vehicles.

1503
01:17:43,784 --> 01:17:45,953
Nobody enters and nobody leaves.

1504
01:17:46,704 --> 01:17:50,332
So we have a large military presence
in the vicinity of the hospital.

1505
01:17:50,416 --> 01:17:54,545
We have two soldiers and two police
inside the hospital with a box

1506
01:17:54,628 --> 01:17:57,256
and something inside a
black zipper bag.

1507
01:17:58,424 --> 01:18:01,177
They asked me to do the x-rays

1508
01:18:01,260 --> 01:18:03,095
of the parts they requested:

1509
01:18:03,971 --> 01:18:05,097
the skull,

1510
01:18:05,181 --> 01:18:06,348
cervical spine,

1511
01:18:06,515 --> 01:18:07,516
thorax,

1512
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,351
abdomen, pelvis,

1513
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:10,853
and legs and arms.

1514
01:18:11,228 --> 01:18:14,315
RECREATION

1515
01:18:14,523 --> 01:18:16,484
Their eyes

1516
01:18:16,609 --> 01:18:17,860
They were fixed,

1517
01:18:18,319 --> 01:18:20,863
watching me all the time

1518
01:18:20,946 --> 01:18:22,364
to see what he was doing.

1519
01:18:22,448 --> 01:18:24,408
But they didn't say anything...

1520
01:18:25,159 --> 01:18:26,494
RECREATION

1521
01:18:26,577 --> 01:18:28,913
...even among themselves.

1522
01:18:30,706 --> 01:18:32,666
The x-rays were revealed,

1523
01:18:32,750 --> 01:18:34,543
and at that moment,

1524
01:18:35,127 --> 01:18:37,963
I didn't see any images.

1525
01:18:38,047 --> 01:18:40,633
Everything was confiscated
by the military that day.

1526
01:18:42,176 --> 01:18:45,513
Normally, I check that
the images are correct,

1527
01:18:45,596 --> 01:18:47,139
but on this day,

1528
01:18:47,473 --> 01:18:48,724
I didn't verify them.

1529
01:18:52,311 --> 01:18:53,312
So...

1530
01:18:54,772 --> 01:18:57,566
...a person who was there said:

1531
01:18:57,650 --> 01:18:58,984
"Your work is done.

1532
01:18:59,068 --> 01:19:00,236
Thank you very much.

1533
01:19:00,986 --> 01:19:02,154
Your work is finished.

1534
01:19:02,238 --> 01:19:04,490
Don't comment on what you saw,

1535
01:19:04,573 --> 01:19:05,866
or what you did."

1536
01:19:07,993 --> 01:19:09,203
What did it smell like?

1537
01:19:09,828 --> 01:19:11,789
The smell was strong,

1538
01:19:11,956 --> 01:19:14,959
a mixture between sulfur and ammonia.

1539
01:19:15,834 --> 01:19:20,297
When they took whatever was
in that black bag

1540
01:19:20,381 --> 01:19:23,509
and they left
from the hospital, the military and the police,

1541
01:19:23,884 --> 01:19:26,845
with that bag and that thing...

1542
01:19:27,763 --> 01:19:29,014
...is the smell gone?

1543
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,226
Despite all the cleaning,

1544
01:19:32,309 --> 01:19:33,519
disinfection,

1545
01:19:33,602 --> 01:19:35,688
the smell persisted.

1546
01:19:36,188 --> 01:19:38,691
And that section of the hospital was closed.

1547
01:19:38,774 --> 01:19:41,360
We couldn't serve the public.

1548
01:19:41,860 --> 01:19:44,071
because the smell was very strong.

1549
01:19:46,657 --> 01:19:49,243
The smell was still present the next day.

1550
01:19:49,326 --> 01:19:50,828
And everyone was complaining.

1551
01:19:51,495 --> 01:19:55,374
The smell permeated
my nose and my respiratory system

1552
01:19:55,457 --> 01:19:56,917
for three or four days.

1553
01:19:59,253 --> 01:20:00,671
Three of the most important points...

1554
01:20:01,088 --> 01:20:04,466
strange and bizarre...

1555
01:20:05,593 --> 01:20:06,802
...of this...

1556
01:20:07,386 --> 01:20:08,387
meeting.

1557
01:20:08,721 --> 01:20:10,472
The first thing that seemed to me
really strange:

1558
01:20:10,848 --> 01:20:12,725
they chose me

1559
01:20:12,808 --> 01:20:15,394
to perform this type of procedure

1560
01:20:15,561 --> 01:20:18,397
than any professional
could have done it.

1561
01:20:18,939 --> 01:20:21,400
Another thing: They asked for discretion.

1562
01:20:22,109 --> 01:20:25,779
everything we did
In that room it was a secret.

1563
01:20:26,322 --> 01:20:29,033
Another thing: I was also denied access

1564
01:20:29,116 --> 01:20:30,701
to the images I took.

1565
01:20:31,368 --> 01:20:34,913
And then they thanked me,
and they told me not to say anything.

1566
01:20:35,664 --> 01:20:36,707
Let him remain silent.

1567
01:20:43,047 --> 01:20:45,174
Probably about ten months ago...

1568
01:20:46,425 --> 01:20:49,011
...Marco managed to contact...

1569
01:20:50,054 --> 01:20:55,017
...to a legitimate and verified witness
who was involved in the transportation

1570
01:20:55,267 --> 01:20:56,435
of...

1571
01:20:57,186 --> 01:20:59,772
They call it E.T., or the being.

1572
01:21:01,482 --> 01:21:04,193
This guy was very...scared.

1573
01:21:04,818 --> 01:21:10,366
Marco spent, I think, between eight and ten
months to slowly develop

1574
01:21:10,699 --> 01:21:12,201
a relationship with this guy.

1575
01:21:13,202 --> 01:21:18,165
And about four days ago, he agreed
to meet me and Marco,

1576
01:21:18,248 --> 01:21:19,249
just us.

1577
01:21:19,458 --> 01:21:23,128
So we drove into the night
and we met him in a bar.

1578
01:21:23,212 --> 01:21:26,006
When we arrived, he was with another guy.

1579
01:21:27,716 --> 01:21:31,178
He took us to another place,
we sat outside and talked

1580
01:21:31,261 --> 01:21:35,808
for a couple of hours about taking a step
to the front and appear in the documentary.

1581
01:21:36,308 --> 01:21:39,687
I have never, ever had
the opportunity to interview

1582
01:21:39,770 --> 01:21:43,107
to a witness who potentially
handled an extraterrestrial being.

1583
01:21:45,484 --> 01:21:49,029
I'm worried that the military will find out.
of what is happening because

1584
01:21:49,113 --> 01:21:51,573
They are clearly
paying attention to this witness.

1585
01:21:51,865 --> 01:21:54,284
I am worried that you will receive
a phone call

1586
01:21:54,368 --> 01:21:56,829
reminding him of his oath
to keep the secret.

1587
01:21:57,621 --> 01:22:01,250
I don't want to put
endangering someone else's family.

1588
01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:07,297
So it's always present, deep down
of your mind, in a situation like this,

1589
01:22:07,631 --> 01:22:10,384
you know that at any moment, they can
remove the floor from under your feet,

1590
01:22:10,467 --> 01:22:12,469
and until everything is said,
there is nothing certain.

1591
01:22:13,387 --> 01:22:16,515
Look, I wonder if we should
rent a hotel room

1592
01:22:16,598 --> 01:22:18,475
and then have him come to us.

1593
01:22:19,101 --> 01:22:21,979
Because this way we can put all the equipment
in the hotel room

1594
01:22:22,104 --> 01:22:24,314
and then he can just
introduce yourself and enter.

1595
01:22:24,398 --> 01:22:26,859
We can stop at the gas station.

1596
01:22:27,943 --> 01:22:31,572
Marco coordinates
with the witness, Military X,

1597
01:22:31,655 --> 01:22:33,782
to ensure a safe meeting.

1598
01:22:33,866 --> 01:22:38,704
Yes, I made an appointment with him in
a hotel right here, near here.

1599
01:22:38,787 --> 01:22:41,165
-So, I think we have to drive...
-First we go to the hotel.

1600
01:22:41,248 --> 01:22:43,584
-Yes, we enter.
-We register and just enter.

1601
01:22:43,667 --> 01:22:45,669
-Yes, exactly. Yes, let's go.
-Now. Let's go.

1602
01:22:46,378 --> 01:22:47,379
Thank you!

1603
01:22:50,132 --> 01:22:53,385
I feel that anxiety
in the stomach, you know?

1604
01:22:54,553 --> 01:22:55,554
It's like...

1605
01:22:57,806 --> 01:23:00,100
If we achieve it, and...

1606
01:23:01,059 --> 01:23:02,060
First time...

1607
01:23:02,686 --> 01:23:06,857
It will be the most convincing testimony
never revealed about the history of the case.

1608
01:23:08,442 --> 01:23:10,819
Clear. For God's sake,
This hill is very steep.

1609
01:23:11,069 --> 01:23:12,070
I know.

1610
01:23:12,780 --> 01:23:13,781
HIGH

1611
01:23:17,743 --> 01:23:19,703
"Entry."
This is the hotel.

1612
01:23:19,787 --> 01:23:23,874
I'd take a quick shot
and I would turn off the cameras right away.

1613
01:23:25,167 --> 01:23:27,169
Can they do that?
Turn off everything.

1614
01:23:30,172 --> 01:23:31,173
Guys...

1615
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,133
-Yes.
-Where are you?

1616
01:23:33,383 --> 01:23:34,384
Right here.

1617
01:23:34,468 --> 01:23:35,469
Where?

1618
01:23:35,928 --> 01:23:36,929
Here is the team.

1619
01:23:37,471 --> 01:23:38,514
Shit, this room is small.

1620
01:23:38,597 --> 01:23:40,849
Yes you can't even use
these cameras here.

1621
01:23:41,141 --> 01:23:42,518
Oh my gosh, okay.

1622
01:23:42,726 --> 01:23:44,978
are you looking for
a room with two beds.

1623
01:23:45,979 --> 01:23:47,189
You better...

1624
01:23:47,606 --> 01:23:48,607
Yes.

1625
01:23:53,779 --> 01:23:54,780
Mark it.

1626
01:23:55,739 --> 01:23:56,740
Good.

1627
01:23:56,824 --> 01:23:58,784
-They will call you “Military X”.
-Yeah.

1628
01:23:58,867 --> 01:23:59,993
Alright?

1629
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:04,081
Good, it's ready.

1630
01:24:04,206 --> 01:24:07,584
Well, we're sitting here
with Military X...

1631
01:24:09,211 --> 01:24:12,881
...who clearly doesn't want it
reveal your identity, and we will not.

1632
01:24:13,507 --> 01:24:16,718
And it will provide enough details,

1633
01:24:16,802 --> 01:24:18,929
not too many, but yes
enough details about

1634
01:24:19,012 --> 01:24:21,765
operations in which he was involved,
with the Varginha case.

1635
01:24:25,978 --> 01:24:29,064
It was a normal day.
I was at the military base...

1636
01:24:29,731 --> 01:24:33,318
...when around nine,

1637
01:24:33,485 --> 01:24:34,611
half past nine,

1638
01:24:34,987 --> 01:24:37,072
I don't remember it exactly,
It's been a long time...

1639
01:24:38,615 --> 01:24:40,617
They called me,

1640
01:24:40,701 --> 01:24:43,745
we use the term “summoned”,

1641
01:24:44,329 --> 01:24:45,539
to...

1642
01:24:46,665 --> 01:24:48,750
...show up at your office.

1643
01:24:49,376 --> 01:24:50,878
Today he is a colonel.

1644
01:24:50,961 --> 01:24:52,713
Vanderlei, yes?

1645
01:24:53,755 --> 01:24:54,923
And,

1646
01:24:55,007 --> 01:24:56,592
along with other officers,

1647
01:24:58,135 --> 01:25:00,053
They gave me instructions to prepare

1648
01:25:00,512 --> 01:25:02,389
some vehicles,

1649
01:25:02,639 --> 01:25:05,183
the trucks, for a mission.

1650
01:25:05,809 --> 01:25:08,562
They did not specify
What would that mission consist of?

1651
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,023
And

1652
01:25:11,106 --> 01:25:14,776
We were going to the city of Varginha.

1653
01:25:16,862 --> 01:25:18,655
They ordered us

1654
01:25:19,114 --> 01:25:20,157
that we continue...

1655
01:25:21,116 --> 01:25:24,745
some unmarked vehicles,

1656
01:25:24,828 --> 01:25:26,163
non-military vehicles.

1657
01:25:26,955 --> 01:25:29,207
And, if I remember correctly, it was a Combi.

1658
01:25:29,833 --> 01:25:30,918
Yeah?

1659
01:25:31,001 --> 01:25:32,711
A Combi, and...

1660
01:25:34,004 --> 01:25:36,423
...wherever they stopped,
us too.

1661
01:25:37,341 --> 01:25:41,553
We were going to... the city of Varginha.

1662
01:25:41,762 --> 01:25:43,347
When we get there,

1663
01:25:43,597 --> 01:25:44,765
we stayed where we were.

1664
01:25:45,724 --> 01:25:51,313
VARGINHA, BRAZIL

1665
01:25:51,521 --> 01:25:53,357
The convoy stopped.

1666
01:25:53,440 --> 01:25:56,360
To military personnel,

1667
01:25:56,443 --> 01:26:00,030
belonging to group S2,

1668
01:26:00,113 --> 01:26:01,949
which is the Army Secret Service,

1669
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:05,577
he was ordered to stay there,

1670
01:26:05,661 --> 01:26:07,996
-until further notice.
-Yeah.

1671
01:26:08,538 --> 01:26:09,831
And then,

1672
01:26:10,290 --> 01:26:12,668
three... soldiers,

1673
01:26:12,751 --> 01:26:15,045
who were driving the other vehicles,

1674
01:26:15,545 --> 01:26:19,257
and... each one had to move
to a different place.

1675
01:26:19,466 --> 01:26:20,759
-Yeah.
-So...

1676
01:26:21,468 --> 01:26:24,930
...I followed this soldier,

1677
01:26:25,013 --> 01:26:26,640
who belonged to the Secret Service,

1678
01:26:26,723 --> 01:26:28,225
passing through the center of the city,

1679
01:26:28,725 --> 01:26:30,644
near the Regional Hospital,

1680
01:26:30,727 --> 01:26:32,354
-If I'm not mistaken.
-Yeah.

1681
01:26:32,521 --> 01:26:35,774
And then we went to Humanitas Hospital.

1682
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,612
So, we received the order to...

1683
01:26:41,571 --> 01:26:44,950
...back up the trucks
to the Humanitas Hospital.

1684
01:26:46,576 --> 01:26:47,661
DOOR FOR REAR ENTRY

1685
01:26:47,744 --> 01:26:50,038
When you get to the door...

1686
01:26:50,872 --> 01:26:52,165
How can I say it?

1687
01:26:52,666 --> 01:26:55,127
At the hospital scene...

1688
01:26:55,669 --> 01:26:57,045
I saw a box.

1689
01:26:57,379 --> 01:27:00,841
A stainless steel table with a box.

1690
01:27:00,924 --> 01:27:03,427
-Yeah.
-There were doctors,

1691
01:27:03,510 --> 01:27:06,346
people carrying clipboards...

1692
01:27:06,430 --> 01:27:08,598
RECREATION

1693
01:27:08,682 --> 01:27:12,227
...analyzing.
It seemed like everyone was afraid of him.

1694
01:27:12,352 --> 01:27:14,354
And when I looked...

1695
01:27:16,064 --> 01:27:17,816
...I saw...

1696
01:27:18,608 --> 01:27:20,110
...something different.

1697
01:27:20,694 --> 01:27:23,113
OK? A different creature,

1698
01:27:23,196 --> 01:27:26,825
with very oily skin.

1699
01:27:27,659 --> 01:27:29,244
With a lot of oil,

1700
01:27:29,327 --> 01:27:31,371
like silicone.

1701
01:27:31,872 --> 01:27:33,498
Seeing that, I got scared.

1702
01:27:34,082 --> 01:27:39,087
When he saw part of the creature,
Was he in Humanitas?

1703
01:27:39,212 --> 01:27:42,466
-Yeah.
-What was the atmosphere like?

1704
01:27:42,841 --> 01:27:47,179
What expressions did they have?
the others present in the room?

1705
01:27:47,721 --> 01:27:49,306
-Yeah.
-How was it?

1706
01:27:49,389 --> 01:27:51,183
Can you take me to that room?

1707
01:27:52,225 --> 01:27:55,479
I felt a climate of tension.

1708
01:27:56,730 --> 01:27:58,398
I felt a climate of tension.

1709
01:28:01,234 --> 01:28:03,487
Everyone looked at each other.

1710
01:28:03,904 --> 01:28:06,573
And they wondered what was happening.

1711
01:28:07,407 --> 01:28:08,700
That's the truth.

1712
01:28:09,284 --> 01:28:11,369
What caught my attention,

1713
01:28:11,453 --> 01:28:13,080
It was the foot.

1714
01:28:13,955 --> 01:28:15,832
It was like that.

1715
01:28:16,917 --> 01:28:19,169
Practically two fingers.

1716
01:28:21,838 --> 01:28:25,550
When he looked and saw the leg,

1717
01:28:25,634 --> 01:28:26,968
-or part of the leg,
-Yes.

1718
01:28:27,052 --> 01:28:29,971
-and the foot with the V, right?
-Yeah.

1719
01:28:30,597 --> 01:28:31,598
What did you think?

1720
01:28:31,681 --> 01:28:33,141
What caught my attention,

1721
01:28:33,225 --> 01:28:35,310
what led me to believe

1722
01:28:35,393 --> 01:28:37,020
that he was not a human being,

1723
01:28:38,021 --> 01:28:39,898
-it was the foot.
-Yeah.

1724
01:28:43,235 --> 01:28:44,861
Everyone was shocked…

1725
01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:48,698
Very shocked.

1726
01:28:49,825 --> 01:28:51,284
I looked at him,

1727
01:28:51,493 --> 01:28:52,744
then I looked away

1728
01:28:52,828 --> 01:28:54,204
because I got scared.

1729
01:28:54,621 --> 01:28:55,914
I examined it.

1730
01:28:55,997 --> 01:28:57,999
"What's that?" When I looked,

1731
01:28:58,083 --> 01:29:00,085
my expression changed.

1732
01:29:00,544 --> 01:29:01,753
It was like...

1733
01:29:03,213 --> 01:29:04,798
...it surpassed me

1734
01:29:04,881 --> 01:29:06,258
the situation.

1735
01:29:06,341 --> 01:29:07,717
They did this.

1736
01:29:08,176 --> 01:29:11,221
A soldier, I think it was
a soldier from the fire department.

1737
01:29:12,055 --> 01:29:13,515
“Go, go, go!”

1738
01:29:14,015 --> 01:29:15,934
So I took a step back,

1739
01:29:16,268 --> 01:29:17,435
and I turned around.

1740
01:29:18,270 --> 01:29:19,479
But before I go,

1741
01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:23,191
I remember that to the right of the box,

1742
01:29:23,900 --> 01:29:26,153
There was a soldier with a camera,

1743
01:29:26,236 --> 01:29:27,821
but he wasn't filming.

1744
01:29:28,446 --> 01:29:30,907
I had it hanging here.

1745
01:29:30,991 --> 01:29:33,368
I had it hanging here.

1746
01:29:34,953 --> 01:29:37,164
The ESA military base
is located approximately

1747
01:29:37,247 --> 01:29:39,666
30 kilometers southeast of Varginha.

1748
01:29:39,749 --> 01:29:41,585
SCHOOL OF ARMED SERGEANTS
TRÊS CORAÇÕES, BRAZIL

1749
01:29:41,668 --> 01:29:46,381
According to witnesses, the operations
of the army originated here.

1750
01:29:47,966 --> 01:29:53,889
Are there video or image recordings
filmed of the creature that he knows?

1751
01:29:54,347 --> 01:29:57,392
He asked if there was a copy,
some recording

1752
01:29:57,475 --> 01:30:00,854
of what happened in the hospital
that you know of.

1753
01:30:02,022 --> 01:30:03,231
Yes.

1754
01:30:03,690 --> 01:30:05,108
They certainly have it.

1755
01:30:05,942 --> 01:30:07,110
Safely.

1756
01:30:07,194 --> 01:30:12,199
Military X states that
January 22, 1996

1757
01:30:12,365 --> 01:30:16,578
led the creature
Humanitas Hospital in Varginha

1758
01:30:16,870 --> 01:30:18,455
to the ESA military base,

1759
01:30:18,663 --> 01:30:20,832
where it would remain overnight.

1760
01:30:22,584 --> 01:30:24,461
We park the vehicles,

1761
01:30:25,045 --> 01:30:26,296
as indicated to us.

1762
01:30:27,339 --> 01:30:30,967
We went to the office.

1763
01:30:31,384 --> 01:30:32,385
Good?

1764
01:30:32,928 --> 01:30:36,223
They focused on me,

1765
01:30:37,182 --> 01:30:38,475
with this other soldier.

1766
01:30:38,642 --> 01:30:41,102
He looked me straight in the eyes,

1767
01:30:41,228 --> 01:30:42,854
and asked me what I had seen.

1768
01:30:44,648 --> 01:30:48,401
I said, “I think he was a burned man or...

1769
01:30:49,027 --> 01:30:50,487
...something."

1770
01:30:51,029 --> 01:30:52,906
He said, “No,

1771
01:30:52,989 --> 01:30:54,241
"That's not what you saw."

1772
01:30:54,991 --> 01:30:56,409
I don't know if he...

1773
01:30:57,661 --> 01:31:00,163
...he thought I was trying to trick him.

1774
01:31:00,330 --> 01:31:01,748
Like: "He knows,

1775
01:31:01,873 --> 01:31:03,375
But he doesn't want to say it."

1776
01:31:05,085 --> 01:31:06,836
That's when he said...

1777
01:31:07,712 --> 01:31:09,506
...what I saw was something...

1778
01:31:10,590 --> 01:31:12,175
...supernatural.

1779
01:31:15,679 --> 01:31:18,807
Do you have any ideas...

1780
01:31:19,641 --> 01:31:23,603
where did the creature end up from?

1781
01:31:23,687 --> 01:31:29,818
Because he went to Regional, then
to Humanitas, then to ESA,

1782
01:31:30,235 --> 01:31:31,278
then Campinas.

1783
01:31:31,736 --> 01:31:32,904
And then what happened?

1784
01:31:33,154 --> 01:31:34,614
Varginha, THAT...

1785
01:31:34,698 --> 01:31:41,246
According to Militar
from the hospital in Varginha, Humanitas,

1786
01:31:41,329 --> 01:31:45,500
to the military base
ESA in Três Corações, where he remained

1787
01:31:45,583 --> 01:31:46,584
for that night.

1788
01:31:47,669 --> 01:31:52,340
For the first time, the then chief
of police, Mr. Pedro Aguiar,

1789
01:31:52,424 --> 01:31:55,135
Describes what he saw at the base.

1790
01:31:55,927 --> 01:32:00,223
I walked in and had never seen
so many high military commanders.

1791
01:32:00,807 --> 01:32:02,475
It was a large oval space,

1792
01:32:02,684 --> 01:32:05,103
filled with high-ranking officers.
Full of officials.

1793
01:32:06,604 --> 01:32:09,024
On the back of the ESA,

1794
01:32:09,107 --> 01:32:12,527
the helicopters arrived and left
flying from one side to another.

1795
01:32:12,902 --> 01:32:14,779
And on the back of the ESA...

1796
01:32:14,863 --> 01:32:17,949
I found out that they took him to Campinas.

1797
01:32:20,410 --> 01:32:23,913
First thing the next morning,
The convoy continued its mission,

1798
01:32:23,997 --> 01:32:26,541
heading south
along the Fernão Dias highway,

1799
01:32:26,624 --> 01:32:30,253
then westwards
Don Pedro to the Espcex military base

1800
01:32:30,337 --> 01:32:31,963
in the city of Campinas.

1801
01:32:35,050 --> 01:32:38,636
I think they did a study in Campinas.

1802
01:32:40,263 --> 01:32:44,976
Now, there are things that
I don't know and I can't prove,

1803
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,312
but the rumors of the time

1804
01:32:47,729 --> 01:32:50,023
were you moved
to the United States.

1805
01:32:51,024 --> 01:32:55,779
No... we were really equipped,

1806
01:32:56,279 --> 01:32:57,572
honestly,

1807
01:32:58,281 --> 01:32:59,741
to maintain

1808
01:32:59,824 --> 01:33:01,159
the creature here.

1809
01:33:04,704 --> 01:33:06,373
They took him to Campinas,

1810
01:33:06,456 --> 01:33:08,708
and from Campinas,
They took him to the United States.

1811
01:33:10,543 --> 01:33:11,711
When the General...

1812
01:33:12,754 --> 01:33:16,633
...told me it was
a matter of national security,

1813
01:33:17,592 --> 01:33:19,511
is dead. It's over.

1814
01:33:21,346 --> 01:33:22,597
The Brazilian Air Force...

1815
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,100
The team meets with the official
air traffic control

1816
01:33:25,183 --> 01:33:26,726
of the Brazilian Air Force,

1817
01:33:26,810 --> 01:33:28,978
José Manoel Fernandes.

1818
01:33:29,813 --> 01:33:32,524
His unit was responsible for monitoring

1819
01:33:32,607 --> 01:33:36,403
the specific airspace over
the state of São Paulo.

1820
01:33:36,486 --> 01:33:38,196
Do you know anything about this case?

1821
01:33:38,613 --> 01:33:39,823
What I know...

1822
01:33:41,616 --> 01:33:44,744
...is that, the USAF arrives in Campinas.

1823
01:33:45,412 --> 01:33:48,248
A USAF plane lands in Campinas.

1824
01:33:48,790 --> 01:33:51,084
And two helicopters

1825
01:33:51,167 --> 01:33:53,294
They took off from Campinas airport

1826
01:33:53,378 --> 01:33:55,755
to an unknown place.

1827
01:33:56,506 --> 01:33:58,883
Then we found out it was

1828
01:33:59,134 --> 01:34:00,593
the city of Varginha.

1829
01:34:01,469 --> 01:34:02,470
They landed,

1830
01:34:03,096 --> 01:34:05,056
They picked up something that...

1831
01:34:05,557 --> 01:34:06,766
no one knew what it was,

1832
01:34:07,267 --> 01:34:09,227
and they returned to Campinas,

1833
01:34:09,686 --> 01:34:11,479
They put him on the USAF plane.

1834
01:34:12,522 --> 01:34:15,733
They took off and left.

1835
01:34:16,067 --> 01:34:18,319
And the mission was...

1836
01:34:18,445 --> 01:34:19,946
What they told us was:

1837
01:34:20,029 --> 01:34:21,114
"Silence."

1838
01:34:21,197 --> 01:34:22,407
“Total silence.”

1839
01:34:22,824 --> 01:34:24,784
Were Americans involved?

1840
01:34:24,868 --> 01:34:26,744
Or were they just involved
Brazilians?

1841
01:34:29,205 --> 01:34:32,167
Were they only Brazilians or also
Americans?

1842
01:34:32,250 --> 01:34:34,294
Americans only.
Nothing else.

1843
01:34:35,128 --> 01:34:40,341
Brazilians supported
only ground operation.

1844
01:34:40,425 --> 01:34:44,053
What was collected?

1845
01:34:44,179 --> 01:34:47,348
It is unknown.
But something was picked up.

1846
01:34:48,183 --> 01:34:50,685
And how do you know that the Americans
were they involved?

1847
01:34:51,060 --> 01:34:54,063
How do you know there was
Americans involved?

1848
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,357
Because they landed,

1849
01:34:57,734 --> 01:35:00,862
without authorization from the Brazilian government.

1850
01:35:00,945 --> 01:35:02,405
It was a secret mission.

1851
01:35:03,406 --> 01:35:05,533
And it was a plane
United States Air Force.

1852
01:35:09,245 --> 01:35:11,331
In December 2022,

1853
01:35:11,498 --> 01:35:16,127
Our team submitted a request for
access to public information

1854
01:35:16,211 --> 01:35:18,004
to obtain all the information of the
US government flights

1855
01:35:18,087 --> 01:35:23,718
during the period between
on January 14 and January 28, 1996

1856
01:35:24,177 --> 01:35:29,224
From and to Campinas
and the state of São Paulo, Brazil.

1857
01:35:29,599 --> 01:35:32,685
Three years later,
The CIA sent us a response.

1858
01:35:33,436 --> 01:35:38,650
"The CIA can neither confirm nor deny
the existence or nonexistence

1859
01:35:38,733 --> 01:35:41,444
of records that respond to your request.

1860
01:35:42,070 --> 01:35:45,823
The fact of existence
or lack of such records

1861
01:35:45,907 --> 01:35:47,659
is in itself currently

1862
01:35:47,742 --> 01:35:51,788
and properly classified
and protected from disclosure

1863
01:35:51,871 --> 01:35:54,749
by the CIA Act of 1949.

1864
01:35:55,708 --> 01:35:58,503
Therefore, your request is denied."

1865
01:36:10,098 --> 01:36:13,142
It was 9:00 at night.

1866
01:36:13,726 --> 01:36:15,436
The girls were already asleep.

1867
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:20,608
And... there was a knock at the door.
And I, innocently, opened the door,

1868
01:36:20,692 --> 01:36:22,610
thinking it could be

1869
01:36:23,111 --> 01:36:25,446
one of the researchers
that had been here before.

1870
01:36:25,530 --> 01:36:26,573
Ubirajara,

1871
01:36:26,656 --> 01:36:28,449
or Pacaccini, for example.

1872
01:36:30,493 --> 01:36:32,829
But then four men entered

1873
01:36:32,912 --> 01:36:34,455
that I had never seen before.

1874
01:36:34,539 --> 01:36:36,499
All dressed in black.

1875
01:36:38,334 --> 01:36:41,754
One carried a briefcase.

1876
01:36:42,547 --> 01:36:45,049
Another had a folder and told me:

1877
01:36:45,842 --> 01:36:47,385
"Close the door, close the door!"

1878
01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:49,012
That scared me.

1879
01:36:52,432 --> 01:36:53,975
Then one of them told me:

1880
01:36:54,058 --> 01:36:55,935
“Mrs. Luiza, we are here…”

1881
01:36:56,019 --> 01:36:57,729
Only one of them spoke.

1882
01:36:57,812 --> 01:37:00,732
One took notes
and the other was silent.

1883
01:37:01,149 --> 01:37:02,692
Simply listening.

1884
01:37:03,151 --> 01:37:04,736
"We are here

1885
01:37:05,236 --> 01:37:08,031
to make you a great proposal...

1886
01:37:08,698 --> 01:37:12,952
...because now you can
get very rich, if you want."

1887
01:37:13,828 --> 01:37:15,788
I didn't understand it at all.

1888
01:37:15,872 --> 01:37:18,166
I was getting ready to go to bed.

1889
01:37:18,708 --> 01:37:20,793
I asked, "What is this all about?"

1890
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,504
“Tell the girls...

1891
01:37:24,631 --> 01:37:26,716
...they didn't see anything."

1892
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,636
"The money in this briefcase,

1893
01:37:29,719 --> 01:37:31,012
that will be given to him,

1894
01:37:31,095 --> 01:37:33,097
It can only be spent outside Brazil."

1895
01:37:34,265 --> 01:37:35,600
Then I said, “Lord,

1896
01:37:36,184 --> 01:37:37,810
I can't do that.

1897
01:37:37,894 --> 01:37:39,437
My daughters saw something really special.

1898
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,649
I can't call them liars,

1899
01:37:42,732 --> 01:37:44,609
or be a liar myself.

1900
01:37:46,361 --> 01:37:49,447
I won't accept this deal.

1901
01:37:49,530 --> 01:37:51,616
Excuse me, leave my house

1902
01:37:51,699 --> 01:37:52,867
or I'll call the police."

1903
01:37:53,576 --> 01:37:55,953
They insisted and insisted.

1904
01:37:56,287 --> 01:37:58,247
But suddenly they left.

1905
01:37:58,873 --> 01:38:00,833
I ran towards the door,

1906
01:38:01,334 --> 01:38:03,878
to see what kind of car they had.

1907
01:38:05,546 --> 01:38:07,465
And they disappeared.

1908
01:38:08,633 --> 01:38:11,344
I couldn't say where they were from,
but they were not from Brazil.

1909
01:38:11,678 --> 01:38:13,012
They were foreigners.

1910
01:38:27,694 --> 01:38:30,947
I stopped at a gas station

1911
01:38:31,030 --> 01:38:32,323
to have a coffee,

1912
01:38:32,990 --> 01:38:34,701
so I can relax a little.

1913
01:38:35,159 --> 01:38:36,536
And then,

1914
01:38:36,619 --> 01:38:38,705
Two people approached me.

1915
01:38:39,497 --> 01:38:41,708
Dressed in black suits, very neat,

1916
01:38:41,791 --> 01:38:43,042
very tall people.

1917
01:38:43,459 --> 01:38:45,503
They stopped next to me and said:

1918
01:38:45,878 --> 01:38:48,089
“Are you Mr. Carlos de Sousa?

1919
01:38:48,256 --> 01:38:50,717
Married to so-and-so, his daughter is so-and-so..."

1920
01:38:51,718 --> 01:38:53,553
There they described my entire life.

1921
01:38:54,178 --> 01:38:55,763
I turned to the guy and said:

1922
01:38:55,847 --> 01:38:57,807
"Who are you? How do you know?"

1923
01:39:01,227 --> 01:39:02,562
He spoke to me clearly:

1924
01:39:03,271 --> 01:39:05,356
"Look, you haven't seen anything. Shut up.

1925
01:39:05,773 --> 01:39:06,774
Go away.

1926
01:39:06,858 --> 01:39:09,235
If anyone asks,
He will say he didn't see anything.

1927
01:39:12,989 --> 01:39:14,073
He doesn't know anything.

1928
01:39:14,157 --> 01:39:16,409
If not, things are going to get...

1929
01:39:17,201 --> 01:39:18,745
...very rare for you.

1930
01:39:18,828 --> 01:39:20,037
So get out of here."

1931
01:39:21,247 --> 01:39:24,041
At that precise moment, I... got scared.

1932
01:39:29,756 --> 01:39:31,132
It was an Opala,

1933
01:39:31,466 --> 01:39:32,633
black,

1934
01:39:32,842 --> 01:39:34,510
or a very dark blue, almost black,

1935
01:39:34,719 --> 01:39:36,095
and it had no license plate.

1936
01:39:36,554 --> 01:39:38,014
And then they left.

1937
01:39:38,973 --> 01:39:40,266
They disappeared.

1938
01:39:43,853 --> 01:39:45,229
"Someone

1939
01:39:45,313 --> 01:39:47,148
who dares to...

1940
01:39:48,691 --> 01:39:50,735
...say anything

1941
01:39:50,818 --> 01:39:53,988
about what happened or what they saw...

1942
01:39:55,531 --> 01:39:57,742
This should never come to light.

1943
01:39:58,284 --> 01:40:02,455
If someone... speaks

1944
01:40:02,872 --> 01:40:04,749
outside these walls,

1945
01:40:05,333 --> 01:40:08,002
The punishment would be very severe."

1946
01:40:08,795 --> 01:40:09,796
Never...

1947
01:40:10,838 --> 01:40:14,342
It was something that had to be maintained
in the most absolute secrecy,

1948
01:40:14,425 --> 01:40:16,302
of utmost importance.

1949
01:40:17,136 --> 01:40:19,931
The secret would remain hidden
forever.

1950
01:40:24,352 --> 01:40:27,772
We received a request
unexpected meeting

1951
01:40:27,855 --> 01:40:31,359
from the head of neurosurgery
at Regional Hospital.

1952
01:40:32,652 --> 01:40:35,655
The same hospital where
military police officers

1953
01:40:35,738 --> 01:40:38,241
Marco Chereze and Eric Lopes

1954
01:40:38,324 --> 01:40:41,035
they had supposedly taken
to the living alien

1955
01:40:41,118 --> 01:40:42,870
that they had captured on the road.

1956
01:40:43,204 --> 01:40:47,917
The doctor asked the team to come in
through the rear entrance, more discreet.

1957
01:40:48,668 --> 01:40:49,669
Nobody knew why.

1958
01:40:50,002 --> 01:40:52,588
I asked them to take us to the place where
They had brought the alien.

1959
01:40:52,672 --> 01:40:54,674
-This is Regional Hospital.
-Well, yes.

1960
01:40:54,757 --> 01:40:59,095
So he went to the Regional Hospital,
and then to Humanitas. Humanitas,

1961
01:40:59,929 --> 01:41:03,474
THAT. ESA, Campinas.
Campinas, United States.

1962
01:41:07,812 --> 01:41:10,857
If you are recording, you have to use
mask, and James and I go

1963
01:41:10,940 --> 01:41:11,941
to use this.

1964
01:41:12,567 --> 01:41:13,568
Good.

1965
01:41:13,776 --> 01:41:15,403
I'll explain the context to you.

1966
01:41:15,862 --> 01:41:18,239
So let's talk about the context,
okay?

1967
01:41:18,322 --> 01:41:19,323
Yes.

1968
01:41:19,407 --> 01:41:24,453
Dr. Italo Venturelli, the main
neurosurgeon at the Regional Hospital,

1969
01:41:24,620 --> 01:41:30,459
was on guard in the ICU where he had the
most extraordinary encounter of his life.

1970
01:41:30,626 --> 01:41:33,129
-In this room, or in which one?
-Yeah. This room.

1971
01:41:33,254 --> 01:41:34,255
-Right here.
-Here.

1972
01:41:34,338 --> 01:41:37,049
-But the video you saw of the surgery...
-Shit.

1973
01:41:37,133 --> 01:41:39,260
The alien was alive here, in this bed.

1974
01:41:39,468 --> 01:41:40,761
I lay here...

1975
01:41:41,178 --> 01:41:43,472
-He saw the creature here.
-...covered here...

1976
01:41:43,556 --> 01:41:45,016
-He saw her there.
-...covert.

1977
01:41:45,099 --> 01:41:47,476
-While watching the video of the surgery.
-Covered up to here.

1978
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:48,686
Covered up to here.

1979
01:41:48,769 --> 01:41:51,772
The eyes were shaped like drops of water.

1980
01:41:52,481 --> 01:41:55,234
Reds. More or less red, okay?

1981
01:41:55,735 --> 01:41:57,737
It was partially covered.

1982
01:41:58,279 --> 01:41:59,530
It was here.

1983
01:41:59,614 --> 01:42:00,740
But he was alive.

1984
01:42:01,324 --> 01:42:04,201
He looked into the creature's eyes

1985
01:42:04,327 --> 01:42:07,663
-Yes.
-that I was lying in that bed, and what...?

1986
01:42:07,747 --> 01:42:09,498
-What did the creature tell you?
-Yeah.

1987
01:42:09,582 --> 01:42:11,876
-That?
-I saw the red eyes...

1988
01:42:12,710 --> 01:42:15,254
Red eyes... White face and red eyes...

1989
01:42:15,338 --> 01:42:17,506
From his facial expression,
He didn't seem to be suffering.

1990
01:42:17,590 --> 01:42:21,677
-Was there telepathic communication?
-Absolutely. Absolutely.

1991
01:42:21,761 --> 01:42:23,179
Of course. There.

1992
01:42:23,262 --> 01:42:25,973
It was as if he said:
"I'm fine. They've taken care of me."

1993
01:42:26,223 --> 01:42:31,646
He said: "Yes, of course, a communication,
as if to say: 'Yes, I'm fine.

1994
01:42:31,729 --> 01:42:33,272
I received medical attention.'"

1995
01:42:33,356 --> 01:42:37,985
That was what he felt when he perceived
the expression of being.

1996
01:42:38,110 --> 01:42:39,236
Talk without speaking.

1997
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:40,988
Talk without saying anything.

1998
01:42:41,739 --> 01:42:42,823
He spoke without speaking.

1999
01:42:42,907 --> 01:42:47,036
According to Dr. Italo, a being was subjected
to a procedure

2000
01:42:47,119 --> 01:42:48,245
by his colleague,

2001
01:42:48,329 --> 01:42:52,083
the neurosurgeon,
Dr. Marcos Vinicio Neves,

2002
01:42:52,166 --> 01:42:54,835
who passed away in 2018
due to a heart attack.

2003
01:42:57,046 --> 01:42:59,590
So there was a being right here,

2004
01:43:00,091 --> 01:43:01,300
which my colleague attended.

2005
01:43:01,384 --> 01:43:02,551
You probably did well

2006
01:43:02,635 --> 01:43:04,095
because the being seemed calm.

2007
01:43:04,178 --> 01:43:06,347
His hands were relaxed.

2008
01:43:06,430 --> 01:43:08,265
His hands were smaller
than ours.

2009
01:43:08,349 --> 01:43:10,101
Arms smaller than ours.

2010
01:43:10,476 --> 01:43:12,103
Face smaller than ours.

2011
01:43:12,561 --> 01:43:14,939
The body of a 7-year-old boy.

2012
01:43:15,690 --> 01:43:17,817
So, believe what you want...

2013
01:43:18,484 --> 01:43:19,568
He...?

2014
01:43:21,070 --> 01:43:22,071
All good?

2015
01:43:25,157 --> 01:43:27,284
No, I'm here. I'll be out soon.

2016
01:43:27,868 --> 01:43:31,330
Dr. Italo decided to speak
publicly after suffering

2017
01:43:31,414 --> 01:43:33,082
a near fatal heart attack

2018
01:43:33,165 --> 01:43:35,292
a few months before meeting us.

2019
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:39,213
Now determined not to take
the secret to the grave,

2020
01:43:39,296 --> 01:43:41,507
regardless of the consequences.

2021
01:43:43,342 --> 01:43:45,845
-This can create a problem for me.
-Yes, I know, doctor...

2022
01:43:45,928 --> 01:43:47,179
-That's what we didn't want.
-Alright.

2023
01:43:47,263 --> 01:43:49,390
Do you want us to stop?

2024
01:43:49,724 --> 01:43:51,392
No, we can talk more.

2025
01:43:51,475 --> 01:43:53,144
Here, is there no problem?

2026
01:43:53,227 --> 01:43:54,895
-Let's go outside.
-Let's go outside.

2027
01:43:58,024 --> 01:44:00,735
All witnesses with
our team met

2028
01:44:00,818 --> 01:44:04,030
they continue to suffer under the weight
of the imposed secrecy.

2029
01:44:06,073 --> 01:44:07,742
This image,

2030
01:44:07,867 --> 01:44:09,493
in this news article,

2031
01:44:09,660 --> 01:44:11,328
it was the first time

2032
01:44:11,412 --> 01:44:13,497
that my mother participated.

2033
01:44:13,581 --> 01:44:14,707
YES, WE HAVE AN E.T.

2034
01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:16,042
REPORT OF A THIRD GRADE ENCOUNTER

2035
01:44:16,125 --> 01:44:17,710
HE CONVERTED VARGINHA
IN THE BRAZILIAN ROSWELL.

2036
01:44:17,877 --> 01:44:19,920
The first and only time.

2037
01:44:20,212 --> 01:44:23,799
LOURDES AND MARTA WITH THE PHOTO OF CHEREZE:
"HE MUST HAVE BEEN INFECTED BY THE E.T."

2038
01:44:27,011 --> 01:44:31,474
I was outraged
because of the attitude of the police.

2039
01:44:31,557 --> 01:44:33,476
25 years ago,

2040
01:44:33,809 --> 01:44:36,604
They came to see my mother
and they told him.

2041
01:44:36,687 --> 01:44:38,564
The creature's story was true.

2042
01:44:38,647 --> 01:44:39,815
Yes it happened.

2043
01:44:41,067 --> 01:44:43,944
But they couldn't admit the truth

2044
01:44:44,028 --> 01:44:45,529
to society

2045
01:44:45,654 --> 01:44:48,532
because the population would collapse.

2046
01:44:55,289 --> 01:44:58,584
If his story is true...

2047
01:45:00,252 --> 01:45:02,129
...is going through life

2048
01:45:02,797 --> 01:45:08,010
with a level of certainty that only
a handful of people on this planet.

2049
01:45:08,552 --> 01:45:11,222
What does that feel like?

2050
01:45:11,972 --> 01:45:14,517
I remember Marco's words
when I met him.

2051
01:45:14,934 --> 01:45:18,187
One of the first things
What he told me was:

2052
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:20,648
“Wow, friend,
I wish I was in your place!

2053
01:45:21,982 --> 01:45:23,567
I wish I was in your place.

2054
01:45:23,859 --> 01:45:25,277
because you

2055
01:45:25,736 --> 01:45:28,447
"You lived something I dream of living."

2056
01:45:29,156 --> 01:45:30,866
And to be honest,

2057
01:45:30,950 --> 01:45:32,993
I am indifferent.

2058
01:45:33,077 --> 01:45:34,912
It's not something that attracts me.

2059
01:45:35,871 --> 01:45:38,707
It's a story, it's something I've experienced.

2060
01:45:39,333 --> 01:45:41,919
That's meaningful to a lot of people.
For...

2061
01:45:43,420 --> 01:45:45,589
...the world, to humanity.

2062
01:45:46,298 --> 01:45:47,424
But,

2063
01:45:47,508 --> 01:45:50,594
while you search for it, investigate it,

2064
01:45:51,220 --> 01:45:53,389
I think I wish I hadn't experienced it.

2065
01:45:53,806 --> 01:45:54,849
Honestly.

2066
01:45:54,932 --> 01:45:56,267
I wish I hadn't experienced it

2067
01:45:56,350 --> 01:45:58,644
because it caused me a lot of trouble,

2068
01:45:58,727 --> 01:45:59,979
many problems.

2069
01:46:00,104 --> 01:46:03,357
I shared all my personal problems
with Marco.

2070
01:46:03,440 --> 01:46:04,483
Marco knows it.

2071
01:46:04,567 --> 01:46:06,318
I had a lot of problems.

2072
01:46:11,031 --> 01:46:14,577
I wish it hadn't been us.

2073
01:46:14,785 --> 01:46:18,664
Because we went through a lot together, okay?

2074
01:46:18,789 --> 01:46:21,167
And a lot of mockery,

2075
01:46:21,250 --> 01:46:22,626
-right? Until today.
-Until today.

2076
01:46:22,710 --> 01:46:25,588
Today we can see this

2077
01:46:26,255 --> 01:46:28,048
from a different perspective.

2078
01:46:37,224 --> 01:46:39,810
May 8, 1996.

2079
01:46:40,144 --> 01:46:42,855
In the face of growing media pressure
communication and witnesses,

2080
01:46:43,355 --> 01:46:47,109
the ESA military base makes a
press conference.

2081
01:46:47,401 --> 01:46:49,695
General Lima addresses the crowd.

2082
01:46:49,778 --> 01:46:52,489
We have nothing to hide.

2083
01:46:53,616 --> 01:46:56,869
-Happened?
-What were you doing that day?

2084
01:46:58,370 --> 01:46:59,371
we were working

2085
01:46:59,830 --> 01:47:01,624
by the Army and the Nation.

2086
01:47:02,208 --> 01:47:03,834
Can you prove it?

2087
01:47:05,294 --> 01:47:06,378
Whom?

2088
01:47:06,462 --> 01:47:07,463
To the press.

2089
01:47:08,547 --> 01:47:11,800
-Because?
-Don't you want to prove the facts?

2090
01:47:12,134 --> 01:47:13,344
I don't have to prove what I said.

2091
01:47:13,427 --> 01:47:15,054
I've already said everything I was going to say.

2092
01:47:17,765 --> 01:47:19,683
They wanted to keep us quiet
about this story.

2093
01:47:21,769 --> 01:47:23,896
That he wasn't an alien,
that was crazy,

2094
01:47:23,979 --> 01:47:25,940
It was nonsense, or nothing.

2095
01:47:26,023 --> 01:47:27,858
As if that didn't exist.

2096
01:47:27,942 --> 01:47:30,736
That's why we don't talk to the police,

2097
01:47:30,819 --> 01:47:32,696
ESA, or something like that.

2098
01:47:39,495 --> 01:47:42,206
Do you think I would be ashamed

2099
01:47:42,289 --> 01:47:43,707
for 26 years?

2100
01:47:44,124 --> 01:47:46,126
People, family members

2101
01:47:46,210 --> 01:47:47,795
joking, making fun of me.

2102
01:47:48,796 --> 01:47:50,130
I would never do that.

2103
01:47:50,923 --> 01:47:52,549
What did I get out of all this? Nothing.

2104
01:47:52,758 --> 01:47:54,260
I never gained anything from it.

2105
01:47:54,343 --> 01:47:56,845
There is no advantage to be gained.

2106
01:47:57,346 --> 01:47:59,056
If I say I won a coin,

2107
01:47:59,265 --> 01:48:00,307
I would lie.

2108
01:48:07,481 --> 01:48:08,565
Unfortunately,

2109
01:48:09,233 --> 01:48:10,818
I come from...

2110
01:48:11,610 --> 01:48:12,903
...an institution that...

2111
01:48:13,737 --> 01:48:14,989
...I cannot reveal.

2112
01:48:17,324 --> 01:48:18,742
Now they have,

2113
01:48:19,243 --> 01:48:20,286
practically,

2114
01:48:20,786 --> 01:48:23,497
my peace is in your hands.

2115
01:48:23,747 --> 01:48:25,165
Could I make a lot of money?

2116
01:48:25,249 --> 01:48:26,333
Yes.

2117
01:48:26,417 --> 01:48:27,793
I could write my story.

2118
01:48:29,086 --> 01:48:30,337
but

2119
01:48:30,421 --> 01:48:33,215
I met Marco and I promised him that I

2120
01:48:33,299 --> 01:48:35,175
would give a final statement.

2121
01:48:35,676 --> 01:48:36,802
Yeah?

2122
01:48:36,885 --> 01:48:38,012
And...

2123
01:48:38,095 --> 01:48:40,514
I thank you for giving me

2124
01:48:40,597 --> 01:48:42,099
this opportunity to speak.

2125
01:48:42,725 --> 01:48:48,731
Let them continue investigating.
Never be discouraged.

2126
01:48:50,691 --> 01:48:52,568
Don't miss this opportunity.

2127
01:48:54,778 --> 01:48:57,281
The producers didn't let him go.

2128
01:48:57,364 --> 01:49:00,492
Several have returned to Brazil
times since then.

2129
01:49:01,285 --> 01:49:03,787
So there was a being right here...

2130
01:49:04,413 --> 01:49:06,582
exposed to our environment.

2131
01:49:07,124 --> 01:49:10,169
After several minutes of interaction
with being,

2132
01:49:10,252 --> 01:49:11,962
in this same ICU

2133
01:49:12,046 --> 01:49:13,714
at the Regional Hospital,

2134
01:49:14,340 --> 01:49:17,593
Dr. Italo told us that
the military broke in

2135
01:49:17,676 --> 01:49:21,221
and they took the being, then
They threatened hospital staff

2136
01:49:21,305 --> 01:49:22,556
so that they would remain silent.

2137
01:49:23,140 --> 01:49:24,892
People are… “Wow!”

2138
01:49:25,434 --> 01:49:27,686
That's why we never talk about it.

2139
01:49:28,228 --> 01:49:29,730
That's why you say I should...

2140
01:49:30,522 --> 01:49:32,066
I can't... I can't...
What?

2141
01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:33,776
Explain the documentary...

2142
01:49:34,568 --> 01:49:37,988
Can you explain the documentary to me?
What do we have to do...?

2143
01:49:38,781 --> 01:49:40,491
-I just want to get...
-A lot of politics.

2144
01:49:41,241 --> 01:49:42,242
Oh.

2145
01:49:44,578 --> 01:49:46,747
He perceived intelligence.

2146
01:49:47,373 --> 01:49:48,624
An intelligence.

2147
01:49:49,041 --> 01:49:51,502
Intelligence? Much bigger than mine.

2148
01:49:52,753 --> 01:49:55,422
An intelligence much greater than his.

2149
01:49:55,881 --> 01:49:57,800
Although he needed us,

2150
01:49:57,883 --> 01:50:01,011
he had control of the room.

2151
01:50:02,304 --> 01:50:06,183
Ask him what it feels like to share
this information after 29 years.

2152
01:50:06,266 --> 01:50:09,353
What do you think of
share this information...?

2153
01:50:09,436 --> 01:50:10,854
I feel like crying.

2154
01:50:12,398 --> 01:50:13,774
He wants to cry.

2155
01:50:17,236 --> 01:50:18,237
Excuse me.

2156
01:50:20,864 --> 01:50:22,074
He was a magnificent being.

2157
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:24,618
He was different from us.

2158
01:50:24,701 --> 01:50:25,869
No bad intentions.

2159
01:50:27,121 --> 01:50:28,956
I didn't perceive any bad intentions.

2160
01:50:29,915 --> 01:50:32,543
He saw no malice in that being.

2161
01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:34,837
An angel.

2162
01:50:35,087 --> 01:50:36,255
An angel.

2163
01:50:36,755 --> 01:50:37,756
Oh.

2164
01:50:42,928 --> 01:50:44,096
An angel.

2165
01:50:44,430 --> 01:50:45,639
An angel.

2166
01:50:52,229 --> 01:50:53,272
Thank you.

2167
01:50:53,522 --> 01:50:57,609
I wouldn't have returned
for 15 years if I didn't believe it.

2168
01:50:58,485 --> 01:51:03,240
I wouldn't have returned
for 15 years if I didn't believe it.

2169
01:51:03,657 --> 01:51:04,741
Clearly.

2170
01:51:09,455 --> 01:51:10,789
You can believe it.

2171
01:51:11,540 --> 01:51:13,876
-You can believe it.
-You can believe it.

2172
01:51:13,959 --> 01:51:16,587
We have a lot to learn
through the eyes of that being.

2173
01:51:18,046 --> 01:51:22,342
We have so much to learn
through the eyes of this being.

2174
01:51:52,748 --> 01:51:57,753
DR. ITALO VENTURELLI
CHIEF NEUROSURGEON, REGIONAL HOSPITAL

2175
01:52:28,951 --> 01:52:30,077
Where is the evidence?

2176
01:52:30,786 --> 01:52:33,038
We have alien spaceships
in our possession.

2177
01:52:33,121 --> 01:52:34,122
We have bodies.

2178
01:52:34,248 --> 01:52:36,708
Where and why can't I
get the details

2179
01:52:36,792 --> 01:52:38,335
-to verify those statements?
-Good, good.

2180
01:52:38,418 --> 01:52:42,798
If the president of the United States
issue an executive order

2181
01:52:43,507 --> 01:52:44,508
that...

2182
01:52:46,218 --> 01:52:50,305
...absolve me of all my
TSSCI confidentiality agreements.

2183
01:52:51,181 --> 01:52:53,225
These are non-disclosure agreements.

2184
01:52:53,308 --> 01:52:56,186
Those are the agreements we have
what to sign for each compartment

2185
01:52:56,270 --> 01:52:58,730
of our SCI authorizations.

2186
01:52:59,189 --> 01:53:00,983
So if the president

2187
01:53:01,441 --> 01:53:07,281
exempts or absolves me from my obligation
with those confidentiality agreements

2188
01:53:07,864 --> 01:53:11,243
and Congress summons me,
someone from the Capitol, some committee,

2189
01:53:11,326 --> 01:53:13,495
whether from the Senate or the
House of Representatives, or both,

2190
01:53:13,787 --> 01:53:17,916
to reveal everything I know
What I learned from my research,

2191
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:19,918
both unclassified and classified,

2192
01:53:20,002 --> 01:53:23,297
in the UAP program,
air crash recovery,

2193
01:53:23,380 --> 01:53:28,343
and hardware reverse analysis
and INH programs, I would.

2194
01:53:28,427 --> 01:53:31,388
If I could get an exemption
or absolution of that duty

2195
01:53:31,471 --> 01:53:34,349
by the president
and if Congress summons me,

2196
01:53:34,433 --> 01:53:36,310
Yes, I will go and tell you everything I know.

2197
01:53:53,201 --> 01:53:55,704
Hello, I'm Vittorio Pacaccini.

2198
01:53:56,330 --> 01:53:58,707
I am one of the main researchers

2199
01:53:58,790 --> 01:54:01,710
of the Varginha incident
from the beginning.

2200
01:54:02,085 --> 01:54:05,422
I know it and I saw it with my own eyes,

2201
01:54:05,505 --> 01:54:08,342
an alien creature
kept in captivity

2202
01:54:08,425 --> 01:54:11,511
and there is a 35 second video.

2203
01:54:12,220 --> 01:54:17,976
It was right there, one of the creatures
aliens with two armies holding

2204
01:54:18,060 --> 01:54:19,770
the creature by the shoulders.

2205
01:54:20,020 --> 01:54:25,150
The creature was really sick,
He didn't feel good at all.

2206
01:54:25,609 --> 01:54:29,112
They tried to give the creature
some fruit and water.

2207
01:54:29,196 --> 01:54:30,447
He didn't accept it.

2208
01:54:30,656 --> 01:54:34,993
And the reason they filmed
to this creature

2209
01:54:35,661 --> 01:54:39,247
without superior authorization is because

2210
01:54:39,331 --> 01:54:42,417
They were quite angry
because the American military

2211
01:54:42,501 --> 01:54:46,672
They came to Brazil to take
all these materials, not only

2212
01:54:46,755 --> 01:54:50,592
images, recordings,
but the creatures themselves

2213
01:54:50,926 --> 01:54:54,763
and the spaceship,
and they took her to the United States.

2214
01:54:54,846 --> 01:54:58,392
So, a friend of mine from the army

2215
01:54:59,351 --> 01:55:00,769
had the opportunity

2216
01:55:00,852 --> 01:55:04,648
without authorization,
to make this film.

2217
01:55:04,856 --> 01:55:10,028
And right now, I'm willing to put my
right hand morning on the bible

2218
01:55:10,112 --> 01:55:13,782
and do a real test
with a public lie detector

2219
01:55:13,865 --> 01:55:16,660
to check that everything
I'm saying it's true.

2220
01:55:37,222 --> 01:55:41,685
The accumulation of aspects, the girls
who saw something, the other people

2221
01:55:41,768 --> 01:55:43,520
In the town they saw something,

2222
01:55:43,603 --> 01:55:45,731
this was not a
isolated event where you have

2223
01:55:45,814 --> 01:55:48,191
a single witness saying:
"Oh, I saw something extraordinary!"

2224
01:55:48,734 --> 01:55:52,279
Not at all. They seemed to be girls
relatively naive young people

2225
01:55:53,488 --> 01:55:55,949
and there were firefighters involved

2226
01:55:57,284 --> 01:55:59,035
who also saw those beings.

2227
01:55:59,327 --> 01:56:03,290
And one of the good things
is that it eliminates the meaning of saying:

2228
01:56:03,373 --> 01:56:05,375
"These things
"They only happen in the United States."

2229
01:56:05,667 --> 01:56:07,669
Well, there was participation
from the United States

2230
01:56:07,753 --> 01:56:09,004
and I wouldn't be surprised if they

2231
01:56:09,087 --> 01:56:12,340
They will pay to collect the remains
and everything else.

2232
01:56:12,883 --> 01:56:13,884
Why not?

2233
01:56:14,217 --> 01:56:16,553
It makes sense. An economical way
to obtain information.

2234
01:56:17,053 --> 01:56:18,722
Let others do the work.

2235
01:56:19,306 --> 01:56:23,769
I am a second lieutenant
in the Brazilian Army Reserve,

2236
01:56:23,852 --> 01:56:25,437
and through my contacts,

2237
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:28,398
the sergeant who
He worked with me at that time,

2238
01:56:28,815 --> 01:56:33,236
he told me the boxes
that contained the entities

2239
01:56:33,570 --> 01:56:38,867
were taken
to the Campinas military base.

2240
01:56:38,992 --> 01:56:42,412
And from there it was
to the Hospital de Clínicas in Unicamp,

2241
01:56:42,537 --> 01:56:46,333
where they secured the perimeter,

2242
01:56:46,833 --> 01:56:49,461
and they began the exam with the team.

2243
01:56:49,544 --> 01:56:51,254
And then the Americans arrived,

2244
01:56:51,338 --> 01:56:55,050
and they took the
entities that were in the boxes

2245
01:56:55,133 --> 01:56:56,510
to the United States.

2246
01:57:17,030 --> 01:57:18,907
People ask why Varginha

2247
01:57:18,990 --> 01:57:21,117
did not receive the same treatment
than the other cases.

2248
01:57:21,451 --> 01:57:24,079
probably because
It is the most important case

2249
01:57:24,162 --> 01:57:26,540
in which there was cooperation

2250
01:57:26,623 --> 01:57:28,124
between Brazil and the United States.

2251
01:57:28,625 --> 01:57:30,210
It will always be our word

2252
01:57:30,293 --> 01:57:31,461
against everyone else.

2253
01:57:31,545 --> 01:57:33,797
But there are still things to discover.

2254
01:57:34,381 --> 01:57:35,674
A mystery that persists.

2255
01:58:16,423 --> 01:58:19,926
I think the case of Virginia is much more
important today

2256
01:58:20,010 --> 01:58:21,887
because it is more recent

2257
01:58:21,970 --> 01:58:24,723
and some of the events
have not yet been developed.

2258
01:58:25,015 --> 01:58:26,850
Did she have any relationship with the eyes?

2259
01:58:26,933 --> 01:58:32,230
Did it make you feel that you shared
the same vision as those beings?

2260
01:58:32,314 --> 01:58:33,315
Yes.

2261
01:58:33,690 --> 01:58:36,818
“Get me out of here, I'm suffering.”

2262
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:41,406
Kátia and I wanted to stay,
but Liliane didn't let us.

2263
01:58:42,407 --> 01:58:45,869
People joke about this,
but it is very serious.

2264
01:58:59,591 --> 01:59:01,676
everything that happened to me

2265
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:03,803
It was because of what happened
at the Maiolini farm.

2266
01:59:04,012 --> 01:59:05,889
That's where

2267
01:59:06,056 --> 01:59:07,432
This whole story began.

2268
01:59:08,224 --> 01:59:09,935
That's where it all started.

2269
01:59:10,310 --> 01:59:11,519
At the Maiolini farm.

2270
01:59:13,647 --> 01:59:17,400
Have you seen living aliens?
walking through this city?

2271
01:59:18,568 --> 01:59:19,861
Unfortunately,

2272
01:59:19,945 --> 01:59:22,906
-I didn't see it, but I believe it.
-Yeah.

2273
01:59:24,115 --> 01:59:28,536
I tried this case in 1996

2274
01:59:28,620 --> 01:59:31,456
because I have some friends there.

2275
01:59:31,831 --> 01:59:35,627
And they told me:
"Oh, you don't know what's true,

2276
01:59:35,710 --> 01:59:37,629
But I do know what I saw."

2277
02:00:04,906 --> 02:00:07,075
The reason why they have not
contacted again

2278
02:00:07,158 --> 02:00:08,702
It's because we are very aggressive.

2279
02:00:14,416 --> 02:00:15,417
Come on.

2280
02:00:18,795 --> 02:00:22,465
Exactly, that's the question!

2281
02:00:23,008 --> 02:00:26,511
Why don't you get in touch?
Because?

2282
02:00:29,973 --> 02:00:32,475
Would that smell make a good perfume?

2283
02:00:40,650 --> 02:00:43,153
Could that smell be perfume?

2284
02:00:44,070 --> 02:00:45,071
Yes, it could.

2285
02:00:45,697 --> 02:00:46,781
If it were like that...

2286
02:01:49,302 --> 02:01:56,267
JEANNINE FOX
I LOVE YOU TO THE MOON AND BACK

2287
02:02:04,150 --> 02:02:11,157
JAIR LEAL
DECEMBER 16, 1950 - APRIL 2, 2022


